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From: MaryW
Date: 06-18-2003, 07:27 AM (1 of 19)
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Gay marriages between 2 consenting adults are now legal in Canada. This is a sign of the times. I'm not sure about the matter myself. I don't think it will make much of a difference to anything.
MaryW
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From: DorothyL
Date: 06-18-2003, 09:27 AM (2 of 19)
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Marriage gives gay people some of the same legal rights the rest of us take for granted -- insurance, inheritance, that sort of thing. That, in my opinion, is only fair. As far as I know only one state in this country gives people those rights. But we seem to be more interested in what goes on in other people's bedrooms than in equal rights. Dorothy |
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From: MaryW
Date: 06-18-2003, 09:41 AM (3 of 19)
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I agree Dorothy. Who are we to judge.
MaryW
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From: Magot
Date: 06-18-2003, 11:00 AM (4 of 19)
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In England, people who live together do not hqve the same rights as those who are married as regards law/inheritance etc. What can I say? God likes marriage! - but between people of opposite sexes. Who is to say that folks who have lived together for years and years are not married in the eyes of God if not in law? Would he draw the line, I think not - it is a matter of comittment of the heart. love and kisses, Jan
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From: Sherri
Date: 06-18-2003, 12:49 PM (5 of 19)
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I thought Canada already granted most of those legal rights to "life partners" in an earlier ruling. I know that Insurance companies had to change a bunch of things. I really don't care one way or another whether they get married or not. But I don't think they should say it is a right. I think it is more like a privledge. Sherri My website
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From: joannequilts
Date: 06-18-2003, 01:11 PM (6 of 19)
| A privilege? come on now Sherri, we are talking about human beings here. Don't all humans have rights? |
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From: Sherri
Date: 06-18-2003, 01:20 PM (7 of 19)
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Sure they have rights like food, shelter, respect. Sherri My website
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From: MaryW
Date: 06-18-2003, 01:36 PM (8 of 19)
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Jordan had to do a whole big thing on human rights in school. One of the fundamental rights of us all is to feel safe. I found that interesting conversation with a 12 yr. old. We all have the right to food, shelter and an education. I think that was his main topics for the project. MaryW
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From: Aimee S
Date: 06-18-2003, 02:58 PM (9 of 19)
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Here we have the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happines. not the right to happiness but the pursuit. I believe to each his own. if it is not harming me or others so be it. My SIL or what we call my SIL is haveing a hard time right now in NY. My sister passed in the WTC. along with some other family memebers. My sister and SIL have two children. She left here life insurance to my SIL. well the policy was in the WTC. and we could not find a copy in our family records. so the survivor fund and his life insurance was given to my mother to put in trust for his children. Luckliy my mother was in a better mood then normal and gave the trust to my SIL. My mother thinks it is a choice. She says she regrets no giving it to her and that she was under stress at the time. We keep telling her that she did the right thing. The more you disaprove, the more fun I am having!
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From: MaryW
Date: 06-18-2003, 03:05 PM (10 of 19)
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Aimee, I am so sorry about your sister. I don't understand who the survivor was.
MaryW
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From: Aimee S
Date: 06-18-2003, 03:11 PM (11 of 19)
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My SIL is the survivor. she has the kids and us girls treat her like nothing has happened. what it was is that in NY you can have same parent adoptions. my sis had one and my SIL had one and they each adopted the other. it was their way of being married. My big sis was a FDNY. We have all served civilly one way or another. We are happy that is she had to die it was doing what she loved to do. My SIL did loose the apartment cause the lease was in my sis name. she also lost the car and other property rights cause they reverted to my mother. We got the monies from her to my SIL but my mom is of the old school of it being morally wrong. She thinks it is morally wrong for me to be in a mixed race marriage. my hubby is a red hot latino. The more you disaprove, the more fun I am having!
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From: Sherri
Date: 06-18-2003, 03:32 PM (12 of 19)
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I am not saying that they shouldn't get married I am just saying I don't think it is a right. I think that because we issue licenses for it it is more a privledge then a right. If some one does something horidly stupid like spousal abuse we should be able to take that privledge away. ie they are not able to get a marriage license or not able without counseling. I think it would lead to much more respect for marriage. I think it is horrible when things happen like what happened to Aimee's SIL. Obviously these to people had a life together and were committed to one another. How offensive that we (somebody) should judge that as not worthy. Hey my parents are having a hard time with my marriage to another nationality to. He is of Danish ancestory I am of English ancestory. We are both "White" Canadians. Rediculous huh. Sherri My website
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From: Dede
Date: 06-19-2003, 08:29 AM (13 of 19)
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Happiness comes in all shapes, forms, colors, gay, hetero or bi. What's good enough for my neighbour is good enough for me and vice-versa. It's sad that we sometimes get more interested in what's going on in people's bedroom than bettering our own selves. We've come a very long way in the last little while and we still have a long way to go. Life will return to us what we've put into it. Let's just be good to each other. What I like on this site is that we can disagree and still stay civilized and go on with our exchanges. Thanks Mary. |
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From: craftyboi
Date: 06-20-2003, 07:30 PM (14 of 19)
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Hi All.......First and foremost i would like to apologize for missing the chat on wednesday......i was really looking forward to meeting you all.......my life partner and i have been in a relationship for 17 years.........he is my heart and my life......there is no difference between us and a heterosexual couple.....except......we have no rights,we cannot insure one another,if one of us dies we can lose everything to our spouses family members,we get fired from jobs because of being gay,we get abused physically and mentally by sociaty,we are ostrisized from organized religion (supposedly we are not fit for their god)(my god loves and understands us and has blessed us in numerable ways).....we have lost family members,friends......etc.......just because we are gay.........we are killed for nothing more than being gay.......many of us commit suicide in our teens because we can't face our families hatred because of being gay......so, do i believe this country should change their human rights laws for us.......yes........i think we've earned this right........we even raised a son that is not only extremely understanding...(he calls us both dads)......he is 100%heterosexual. one last time i would just like to say........this is no choice,we are born this way......i believe god has his own reasons for creating us......we are just another part of his huge family. i would like to thank those of you who really touched my heart with all the posts on this subject........now back to sewing........lol.......donny |
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From: Betina
Date: 06-21-2003, 01:27 AM (15 of 19)
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Websters says.. Privilege: a right or immunity granted as a peculiar benefit, advantage, or favor : PREROGATIVE; especially : such a right or immunity attached specifically to a position or an office ::to grant a privilege to Human Rights: : rights (as freedom from unlawful imprisonment, torture, and execution) regarded as belonging fundamentally to all persons Doesnt differentiate between any one race of class or orientatin of people.. I believe that anyone can do as they please live as they please and act as they please as long as its in a respectful manner to other human beings.. Frankly its no ones business what you do and who you are with in the bedroom.. and to tell you the truth.. I wouldnt want to know. Taxes are paid the same for everyone.. there is no seperate little boxes that are labeled gay taxes and straight people taxes...everyone pays the same.. so they should have the same rights and privelages that being a good citizen allows.. Doesnt matter who you are or who you love.. you put your pants on and work and eat and sleep the same as everyone else.. Whatever you want to do is up to you... But PLEASE keep the morality issue out of it.. Do not judge lest ye be judged... I work for a very diverse company and we have a ZERO tolerance for any discrimination and this is a good thing... we have insurance for domestic partners too and I think every company should offer it. And if they want to get married .. great..they should.. and if they want to adopt ... great ... then they should. If I remember history correctly this country was created on the basis of Freedom of Choice for all people.. not just to those of a certain persuasion. And as Donny put it so well.. people are born to be a certain way and if it werent supposed to be so then it wouldnt be.. |
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Member since: 04-21-2003 Total posts: 31 |
From: LeapFrog Libby
Date: 06-21-2003, 01:05 PM (16 of 19)
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Very well written Betina, I repeat, for emphasis ! ! Judge not, that ye be not judged.. (KJV) That was one of the first verses I ever learned, not in church or sunday school, but at home from my Dad. He taught us to live by certain rules, that was one of them.. Love one another was also one of the main ones. I'm not going to let anyone tell me how to live my life and I don't tell anyone else how to live their life. I abide by the laws where I live, and if I find a law I don't want to live with, I try to change it.. I firmly believe in 'live and let live' and 'don't judge me till you have walked a mile in my shoes'.. 
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From: maps
Date: 06-21-2003, 02:13 PM (17 of 19)
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aimee, i'm so sorry for your loss, bless your sil. donny, bless you and your partner. why do some people just don't understand some things? i think open minded people have a easier time with things of this nature, closed minded people just don't get it. i say go with the flow whatever floats your boat. if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all.
Marge
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From: Aimee S
Date: 06-21-2003, 08:32 PM (18 of 19)
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It is so interesting that this topic came up now. I was reading the Enquirer (hey if thier life is sooo bad mine has got to be great) there is a major star that "came out of the Closet" recently and he is in there telling about his life with his partner and child. I know what is the point. Well in the articale it reminded me of Donny's post and for my sister. He writes that his son is Hetero and that he sat his son down and said " Be patient with your father it will take time for him to get used to the idea of you being straight" I love the humor and had to share. the actor is BD Wong he is on Law and order SVU The more you disaprove, the more fun I am having!
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User: Aimee S
Member since: 02-23-2003 Total posts: 488
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From: MaryW
Date: 06-22-2003, 06:41 PM (19 of 19)
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Girls, this is great. I am so glad that Donny feels comfortable enough to post on this delicate subject. I just think no one chose who I have in my bedroom, why should I judge who anyone else has. And like Donny said, what about the sewing. LOL.  P.S. Donny, you don't look old enough to have had a partner for 17 yrs.
MaryW
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