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From: colojd
Date: 03-11-2004, 11:28 AM (1 of 15)
Hi everyone - I have a two questions so hope some of you can help me. I have been making banners for our church for a couple of years. I have purchased several books to give me ideas, but wanted to know if any of you make these, too and if you have sources for free patterns or suggestions on any book that you found to be helpful. I sew and quilt but am not an graphic artist, so have to depend on someone's designs for the banners. I also would love to know if there is a book that has a lot of different block style font that can be used for the letters. The letters, as you know, have to be block style, rather than a line drawn style to be more visible from distances and also easier to cut out and sew. So any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Also, I have started to collect old sewing notions, such as needle books, buttons, etc just for fun and wondered if anyone knew of online sources that are about vintage notions. I especially would like to know what company made some of these products (the needle books for example don't always have much information on them such as a date or manufacturer) and when they were made.

Thanks to all for any information on either that you can pass along to me!

Joyce
User: colojd
Member since: 05-03-2002
Total posts: 83
From: plrlegal
Date: 03-11-2004, 04:32 PM (2 of 15)
Here you go.

http://www.praisebanners.com/
Patsy
User: plrlegal
Member since: 05-19-2001
Total posts: 318
From: colojd
Date: 03-11-2004, 05:59 PM (3 of 15)
Thanks for the link. I have seen this site before. They have some great basic designs but they sell the banners and not the patterns to make them. These designs are usually copyrighted so can't be copied.

What I was looking for was either copyright free images and block style font, or books that had other ideas. I have found a lot of clip art type sites, but the designs have to be somewhat basic.

Thanks again. I may contact them to see if they sell patterns or books as well.

Joyce
User: colojd
Member since: 05-03-2002
Total posts: 83
From: plrlegal
Date: 03-11-2004, 09:00 PM (4 of 15)
Joyce here's another site and they have some tips and suggestions for books, etc. http://www.worshipbanners.com/index.html

I did a search for patterns for church banners on www.google.com


Patsy
Patsy
User: plrlegal
Member since: 05-19-2001
Total posts: 318
From: colojd
Date: 03-12-2004, 08:01 AM (5 of 15)
Thanks. I had also found that one, too and found it by using Google. I have about five books, some of which I read about on this site. Some I bought through an online book source like Amazon and problem with that is that you can't always browse the book contents before you buy, so some of the banner books weren't exactly what I would have chosen had I seen it "in person" in the book store.

I really appreciate your sources and I will keep looking, too. I had just wondered if there happened to be a site where there were free online patterns, but since companies and individuals make and sell these for profit, it's not likely there are. I think I am going to try to find some black and white books of religious clip art and alphabets and maybe these will give me more ideas!

Thanks so much again.

Joyce
User: colojd
Member since: 05-03-2002
Total posts: 83
From: bjsuetterlin
Date: 03-13-2004, 07:22 PM (6 of 15)
Hi!
I'm new here but I may be able to help if you are interested. My DH is a clergyperson and has been making paraments and banners for about 35 yrs.
He does make his own patterns but I'm pretty sure he could point you in other directions if you can tell him exactly what you are after. I do know that lifting patterns from those who sell paraments can get you into copyright problems so that is definately not the way to go!

His e-mail address is:

<email address removed for privacy>

In the subject line put "House of Three Angels" and I will tell him to be on the lookout so he doesn't delete you! Bj Suetterlin
User: bjsuetterlin
Member since: 03-13-2004
Total posts: 4
From: colojd
Date: 03-13-2004, 07:27 PM (7 of 15)
Thank you so much for your reply and I will try to get an email off to him and see what he can tell me.

You are right about copying the work of others and I certainly would not want to do it! I have done a few of my own designs but would like to know if there are patterns available. I have about 5 or 6 banner books. They can vary widely from a lot of information to maybe one or two designs and a little info on how to put them together.

One challenge I had was that our former church was not built yet, so services were held in the gym of the school. Normally, banners are not necessarily large, but due to the scale of the room, I had to make them fairly large to be seen from a distance and to be in balance with the walls! They put up rods to hold the banners and they were over 45" wide and it turned out that the banners needed to be this big just to be seen. We are still in regular touch with our former pastor and he still wants me to continue to make banners, so I am always on the lookout for good books and patterns that can work for us.

Thanks again.

Joyce
User: colojd
Member since: 05-03-2002
Total posts: 83
From: palouse
Date: 03-14-2004, 11:42 PM (8 of 15)
Cross stitch books have all kinds of letter in different fonts. Maybe you could copy and enlarge with a copy machine to make them the size you need, or if it is easier, count the letters off on graph paper then enlarge them. I have used this method for bulliten boards and such but I suspect you need larger sizes than what is used for bulliten boards. Also a teacher supply store may have something you would be able to fidddle with.
Palouse
User: palouse
Member since: 03-10-2004
Total posts: 2
From: colojd
Date: 03-15-2004, 07:37 AM (9 of 15)
Thanks for the suggestions. I will look into that.
Joyce
User: colojd
Member since: 05-03-2002
Total posts: 83
From: craftea
Date: 03-15-2004, 11:53 AM (10 of 15)
Dear Joyce:

I have been making banners too. To get ideas I look in church supply catalogs at bulletin covers, flags, etc. and adapt their ideas to make my own. For example, I would put a cross from one design and a crown from another design together with whatever scripture or words I wanted to make it my own. If you use graph paper it's easier than you think to draft the design and that way you can keep it as simple as you would like. I love embellishing banners with sequins, "jewels", fringe, etc. to dress them up.
Regarding letters, I just find a block type font I like on the computer, type the words as a banner (I use PrintShop), make it as large as possible and print it as "coloring book" or whatever it takes to only print the outline and then use them as my patterns!
I'm glad I found this link! Knowing there are others out there doing this gets me motivated to make new Easter banners!

Jenise
User: craftea
Member since: 03-15-2004
Total posts: 1
From: colojd
Date: 03-15-2004, 05:23 PM (11 of 15)
Great suggestions and ideas - thank you so much! Yes it is good to know that others are out there making liturgical banners, too! I liked your idea from Printshop - will try to do this, too!

Take care
Joyce
User: colojd
Member since: 05-03-2002
Total posts: 83
From: mommgsews
Date: 03-15-2004, 11:56 PM (12 of 15)
I've made several banners as well. The pastor presented me with a book that he wanted me to try. The book is called Banners Without Words. I made a quick search and it is available on Amazon used for about $4.00. It was actually very helpful. The images were expressive enough that words were unnecessary.

Another thing that I've done when working on a design is to use the internet to search for clipart. There are quite a few places where you can download an image. Then I use a copy machine to adjust the size as needed. An overhead projector would also work to enlarge it to a really big size.

I've often taken several pieces of art and overlapped them to come up with the final design I was looking for.

I hope this helps.
User: mommgsews
Member since: 03-15-2004
Total posts: 73
From: colojd
Date: 03-16-2004, 07:47 AM (13 of 15)
Thanks for your suggestions. I also have used a lot of clip art sites and these were helpful. Just have to find the ones that don't have a lot of details such as a highly sketched picture.

I will check for the Banners without Words book - Thanks for that tip!

Joyce
User: colojd
Member since: 05-03-2002
Total posts: 83
From: mommgsews
Date: 03-18-2004, 10:39 PM (14 of 15)
You're very welcome. I alos thought of something else I've used and that's children's coloring books. They usually have fairly simple drawings that are easy to manipulate.
User: mommgsews
Member since: 03-15-2004
Total posts: 73
From: colojd
Date: 03-19-2004, 08:03 AM (15 of 15)
That's a good tip and I have tried those, too. If you can find the designs that are really simple, they work better than the ones with a lot of sketching.

Thanks
Joyce
User: colojd
Member since: 05-03-2002
Total posts: 83
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