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From: mamagoose
Date: 10-12-2004, 07:14 PM (1 of 11)
I am designing an evening gown for the upcoming Marine ball for my son's (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v469/mamagoose/MVC-888F.jpg) date.

This dress (http://www.neimanmarcus.com/store/catalog/prod.jhtml?itemId=prod15490207&parentId=cat000132&masterId=cat000131&index=16&cmCat=) is my initial inspiration. It would be long (floor or ankle length) and include a shrug, using this pattern (http://store.sewingtoday.com/cgi-bin/butterick/shop.cgi?s.item.B6533=x&TI='6533'&pageNum=1&M=&UK=33442489) for my base pattern. I intend to extend the darts (as seams) all the way down to the bottom and insert godets like this (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v469/mamagoose/untitled.bmp) in slinky red velvet (http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/catalog_itemdetail.cfm?ItmID=745) starting from around the (knee area?) (Note, I have a swatch of this and it is more red than rust as my monitor is showing it. I am looking at thisblack knit (http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/catalog_itemdetail.cfm?ItmID=E416) for the body. Now, for the questions...
Will that black knit work and what would my best construction options be for lining and giving the dress enough underneath support? I don't have a sample of the black, but I'm guessing it is very slinky as well. I am concerned about a full lining get folded up and showing through that way. I could probably seam and make the bodice separate like an empire waist and put the velvet belt up there.
Any suggestions would be wonderful! I hope to order the fabric Wednesday night. Thanks!
User: mamagoose
Member since: 01-26-2002
Total posts: 168
From: Helz
Date: 10-13-2004, 05:22 PM (2 of 11)
Oh mammagoose!!!!!

That dress is beautiful!, lucky lucky girl!, Im afraid I cant help but just wanted to say wow to the dress......and wow to your son!!! :wink:
Best of luck, you must be very talented, cant wait to see the outcome.
Love Helz
User: Helz
Member since: 07-14-2004
Total posts: 21
From: MaryW
Date: 10-14-2004, 11:16 AM (3 of 11)
Mamagoose, all I can say is hubba hubba. LOL, the dress is nice too. :wink:

Like I posted before, I have never used the slinky before so I can't help but I will see if I can find some advice for you.
MaryW
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User: MaryW
Member since: 06-23-2005
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From: Magot
Date: 10-14-2004, 12:28 PM (4 of 11)
Doesn't the boning give the bodice support? I love the line of the dress-personally I think it would be a shame to make the bodice separate as the joy is in all that whoosh from the bust to the floor. Is it the skirt part you are worried about the lining showing? sorry, I must seem a bit dense here but I don't quite understand. If the dress is fully lined can't you just go with that? I know the outer dress has the godets added but is there a rule that says the dress and the lining have to be attached at the hem or will it just wrap around your legs and trip you up in the tango if you don't?
love and kisses, Jan
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User: Magot
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From: Londa
Date: 10-14-2004, 07:48 PM (5 of 11)
I don't think you have much of a problem. I think both fabrics will work well together. You might have to diagonally hand-baste, or use 505 Temporary Spray to hold the Slinky Knit and the REd Velvet knit together - but that should work oK.
What is the young ladie's figure like? Does she need 'cinching in'. I might opt for one of those body cincher undergarments - they're all over the place - then just fit the velvet to her and put an elastic casing in the lining portion of the top part.
I might also opt not to have a lining that goes say - past the knee or so. I CERTAINLY would not secure a lining hem to the garment hem - that would be trouble from the get go. I think you want the garment at the hem to be flippy and free - not constricted by lining at all.
The Slinky knit you are looking at is actually a bit heavier than the typical acetate version.

Anyway - that's my opinion Go for it - and have fun!
What a handsome son you have....where is he stationed?

Londa
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User: Londa
Member since: 05-26-2004
Total posts: 39
From: HHH
Date: 10-14-2004, 10:45 PM (6 of 11)
Sorry not to have anything useful to add about the dress, except that your son's girlfriend is lucky to have such a generous dressmaker in her life.

Ditto what the others said about your son, and thank him from me for his service :USA: .
User: HHH
Member since: 02-10-2004
Total posts: 87
From: Material Girl
Date: 10-15-2004, 09:42 AM (7 of 11)
Hi

A long dress in slinky material can be heavy.
Im about to attempt a strapless dress in slinky fabric myself.
Im going to use boning in the top but Ive also bought some rubber taping,like the see through bra straps you can buy now.Id sew it to the top of the lining and maybe around and under the bust if its fitted so itl stick to the skin and hopefully help keep it up.

Maybe the lining can be attatched to the black material but leave the red free flowing.But I think the best suggestion so far is to leave the lining unattatched,maybe stop the lining short before it reaches down to the top of the red segments and maybe do little stitches in certain places to stop it riding up.


A gorgeous,unusual and modern dress by the way.
User: Material Girl
Member since: 10-04-2004
Total posts: 35
From: cincy
Date: 10-15-2004, 08:41 PM (8 of 11)
I have a question on a couple of slinky pieces I bought. The skirt is too long and has a slit up one side, too deep a slit at that. What is the best way to correct this problem. You can hardly find the stitches because they are embedded in the fabric. It was expensive so I am leary of trying something I am not sure of even though I am an experienced sewer. Anybody have ideas for me?
User: cincy
Member since: 04-11-2002
Total posts: 1
From: mommydionne
Date: 10-16-2004, 01:21 PM (9 of 11)
Slinky is great but unless you underline with something with a little more stablity in it the bodice it is going to stretch out of shape, perhaps a sheer organza? it doesn't add much in weight or heat but will give you the support you will need to support the top and the boning, boning in slinky without a woven underling is going pull and be visible. But that is a seriously beautiful dress, if you can pull it off, a bodice and waist stay will help give it more support too. I would not underline the skirt but let the slinky's natural drape fall.
Jeanette
User: mommydionne
Member since: 01-08-2004
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From: mommgsews
Date: 10-17-2004, 12:45 AM (10 of 11)
I would actually suggest that just the black portion of the dress/skirt area be lined. Perhaps as mentioned before with a very flowing organza or other sheer knit fabric. this would give the extra advantage of finishing the raw edges of the red sections. Also, the flippy red portions of the skirt would be free to flow.

Barbara
User: mommgsews
Member since: 03-15-2004
Total posts: 73
From: mamagoose
Date: 10-18-2004, 10:28 AM (11 of 11)
Thanks gals, I have the Butterick pattern now and it has a "foundation" bodice, which is just what I was thinking I would need for the top. I'll do the foundation, plus an organza lining. Now, for the red velvet slinky godets pulling too much on the black slinky... I'm going to try a test for this as soon as the fabric gets here. I like the idea of a free lining in organza for the skirt, but those godets may pull down??? Wish I could do an underlining without losing the slinky effect. I appreciate all the online support here. Mary's link and Londa's info has been quite helpful. The young lady is getting very excited and her mother is going to see about borrowing a fur jacket for the night! We are plotting to sit in the parking lot like before the prom :wink: I'll keep my progress posted, going to start on that foundation piece tonight.
User: mamagoose
Member since: 01-26-2002
Total posts: 168
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