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From: Lil Princess
Date: 04-09-2005, 04:02 AM (1 of 18)
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Hi! I am so sorry if this is in the wrong area, if it is, can you move it for me? Anyways! I want to make clothes with letters and printings on them, does anyone know a way? Here is an example of what I want: http://tw.image.bid.yahoo.com/users/7/6/2/5/sonia2127-img600x288-11121748805-5.jpg http://tw.image.bid.yahoo.com/users/5/0/9/3/yun20030508-img600x505-11128142421-6.jpg Like the white angel design on the shirt, does it have to be done professionally? Or can I do my own simple design at home? thanx a bunch! |
User: Lil Princess
Member since: 03-20-2005 Total posts: 13 |
From: blanken6
Date: 04-09-2005, 04:29 AM (2 of 18)
I'm not sure if this is what you were looking for but you can use iron on transfers. I make them for my t-shirts on my computer. When I find a phrase I like I buy special printer paper at the computer store. Make it up on the computer like I want it and then iron it on. I also use it for my kids coaches sweatshirts every year to put the coachs' and kids' names on them. It's a lot cheaper than having them made. I hope this helps? 
Proverbs 31:10-31
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User: blanken6
Member since: 08-11-2004 Total posts: 41 
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From: Lil Princess
Date: 04-09-2005, 04:40 AM (3 of 18)
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oh really?? can you explain more? like where to get the printer papers, how much does it cost, and what programs you use to design on computer? Is there anyway i can draw them and then transfer them on? THANX! I'm so excited! I can make clothes I dream of now! *overexcited* hehe, please bear with me. ^^;;; |
User: Lil Princess
Member since: 03-20-2005 Total posts: 13 |
From: blanken6
Date: 04-09-2005, 05:13 AM (4 of 18)
I got my paper at the closest computer store. Like Comp. USA or one of those types. It says T-Shirt transfers (this one is from Avery). They have them for White or Light shirts and for Dark or Black shirts. As for the designing, I love my Print Artist. I have the older version and the newer version...if you have a choice go for the older version. It's easier to use and you get plenty of graffics out of it. So far I haven't had any problems with the transfering. You don't get a lot of paper and the designs can't be bigger than a sheet of paper or you have to use two sheets. Try the design on regular paper first and then the iron on paper when you get it how you like it. I can't remember how much I paid for them though? I don't think I looked...it was one of those 'I want it so I am going to get it' things. But if you buy t-shirts in the boys/mens section they come in packs of 3-5 for around $5-10 and I think the paper may be around $10-15? That makes the shirts about $8 a piece, not bad for an origianal designer t-shirt. As for drawing and putting it on there...I would draw it, scan it, download it and then print it onto the paper. 
Proverbs 31:10-31
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User: blanken6
Member since: 08-11-2004 Total posts: 41
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From: DorothyL
Date: 04-09-2005, 08:32 AM (5 of 18)
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Do the iron on transfers hold up to washing? I've heard they don't. I've used them on photos I downloaded from the internet and they came out beautiful but it was for something that wont be washed. I know you can buy one brand of transfer paper in the fabric store that might work better. Dorothy |
User: DorothyL
Member since: 12-09-2002 Total posts: 3883 |
From: paroper
Date: 04-09-2005, 11:05 AM (6 of 18)
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Those are silk screened. I have heard that you can buy silk screen kits at craft stores but I've never tried to do it on a small scale. They are pretty cost-effecient for large scale, but the paint is terribly expensive, so if you do it on large scale, you need to do many to pay it back. I think that I paid about $75 a gallon when I was in Girl Scouts for silk screen paint (but a gallon would do litterly hundreds....more than a thousand) shirts. In other words, you would need no where near a gallon even if you were planning to do 50 shirts. The other thing is that the silk screens must be cleaned and reprinted for each design. I had an old commercial one that was framed with a heavy frame. You have to develop a clean or new framed silk with a chemical. You coat the design, then lay a transparancy of the area that will be painted over the coating. You expose the framed silk to light which will develope the design. Where the transparancy is dark, the coating will adhere to the silk. Once the coating is set, you wash away the design that is was covered by the transparancy and you have a silk ready to use. You then just position the silk frame on item to be painted. You put silk screen paint on the inside of the silk frame and use a squeege to push the paint both directions through the paint...you just dab the paint on the screen and move the paint across the design with the squeege one direction and then the other. Usually about two passes both directions will take care of it. Then, (in our case we didn't have a frame to hold the shirt) you have someone or something hold the shirt steady and lift the frame directly up from the shirt...if you shift you will smear the paint. I think this is the hardest part. The shirt tends to rise with the frame, so you need something to keep it on the table. Then we would hang these shirts up to dry. The paint that we used needed to be heat set but we used a water based paint because of fumes. There are oil based paints and I don't know how they are finished out. Once the paint has dried, you can add glitz or whatever to the paint. If the texture of the paint is to have sparkles all over, I suspect that it would need to be added while the paint is wet. You'd need to investigate that. In some cases it would probably be easier and more cost effective to keep a design on the silk and develop a new silk for other designs. Once the design is cleaned, it is gone. Although silk is a pretty delicate cloth, if you handle these correctly they can last years. We had a case where someone got careless and turned the squeege on end and tore one. We always kept one in back up because we were in a time crunch. If you were doing this yourself, you wouldn't probably need to have more than one working design at a time. You can always save the transparency to use later. pam
Bernina 200e, Artista V5 Designer Plus, Explorations, Magic Box, Bernina 2000DE & 335 Bernette Serger, Bernina 1530 Sewing Machine, Bernina 1300 DC Overlock (with coverstitch) |
User: paroper
Member since: 02-03-2004 Total posts: 3775 |
From: paroper
Date: 04-09-2005, 11:09 AM (7 of 18)
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By the way, a large scale silk screen business will put the t-shirts on a round frame that holds several shirts at a time. The framed screens are on a large rack that moves around the t-shirts. The framed are depressed against the shirts and the color is added. The machine is calibrated so that it will hit exactly the same spot all the way around the circle. When the first color is added to the shirt, the rack is moved and the next shirt is colored. If the design is two or more colored, the next screen carries the next portion of the design and it is added to the first. It is a really cool process to watch. These professional t-shirt screeners can print several hundred shirts quickly.
pam
Bernina 200e, Artista V5 Designer Plus, Explorations, Magic Box, Bernina 2000DE & 335 Bernette Serger, Bernina 1530 Sewing Machine, Bernina 1300 DC Overlock (with coverstitch) |
User: paroper
Member since: 02-03-2004 Total posts: 3775 |
From: blanken6
Date: 04-09-2005, 02:41 PM (8 of 18)
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DorathyL, mine have held up pretty well. As well as t-shirts usually do I suppose? I have only had most of my t-shirts about 6 months. I have the nice, new front loading w/d set that is gentler on your clothes though.
Proverbs 31:10-31
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User: blanken6
Member since: 08-11-2004 Total posts: 41
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From: Magot
Date: 04-09-2005, 03:04 PM (9 of 18)
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I have used the Epsom transfer paper and it works fine on white t-shirts - washes OK. I didn't know that there was one you could get to go on dark shirts - the epsom didn't really work on grays but it was YEARS ago that I did this. You will get a much better results for durability if you silk screen print but I think the computer transfer is the cheaper and easier option. Any drawing program can be used on your computer - remember if you download images they can be copywrite protected and in law probably should not be used . Like using the Coca cola symbols without permission or the Nike tick. You image has to be reversed, I believe, when you print it on the paper and then ironed and peeled off to transfer onto your garment. There are whole companies that produce fabric which you can put through your printer and print direct - then you applique a panel onto your shirt. All the instructions will be on the relevant product that you buy. Experiment, have fun! love and kisses, Jan
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User: Magot
Member since: 12-22-2002 Total posts: 3626 
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From: Lil Princess
Date: 04-09-2005, 03:54 PM (10 of 18)
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DorothyL, what is the brand dat you can buy in the fabric store? Costs?? Thanx! |
User: Lil Princess
Member since: 03-20-2005 Total posts: 13 |
From: Lil Princess
Date: 04-09-2005, 04:00 PM (11 of 18)
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which one is better? silk screened or the computer type of transfering? silk screen seems so hard! > < |
User: Lil Princess
Member since: 03-20-2005 Total posts: 13 |
From: paroper
Date: 04-09-2005, 04:05 PM (12 of 18)
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Silk screening holds up very well. It is what the commercial people use and that is what you buy everywhere in major and discount stores. The biggest problem is getting your silks cleaned. With a new silk it is really no problem. I always had mine done professionally so I didn't go through that. It has been about 6 years since I have done a GS daycamp and things are changing so rapidly that there may be a newer home process that is both cheaper and quicker. It may also be cheaper now to start with new screens all the time. If I were interested, I would check into it. If you plan to do more than one color though, I would do the printer style because you have to isolate the elements of your silkscreen and re-screen to make the colors overlap...kind of like painting a picture, otherwise it will smear or run together and the placement of the other color is very important.
pam
Bernina 200e, Artista V5 Designer Plus, Explorations, Magic Box, Bernina 2000DE & 335 Bernette Serger, Bernina 1530 Sewing Machine, Bernina 1300 DC Overlock (with coverstitch) |
User: paroper
Member since: 02-03-2004 Total posts: 3775 |
From: DorothyL
Date: 04-09-2005, 04:22 PM (13 of 18)
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Lil Princess - I don't know the brand. I just noticed it was there. Jan, You are right about the copyright issue. But I figured if Judy Garland had problems with my niece's tote bag she could just come down here and tell the kid not to carry it anymore!! Dorothy |
User: DorothyL
Member since: 12-09-2002 Total posts: 3883 |
From: paroper
Date: 04-09-2005, 04:39 PM (14 of 18)
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Dorothy, I think that it is a little far for her to come. Don't you?
pam
Bernina 200e, Artista V5 Designer Plus, Explorations, Magic Box, Bernina 2000DE & 335 Bernette Serger, Bernina 1530 Sewing Machine, Bernina 1300 DC Overlock (with coverstitch) |
User: paroper
Member since: 02-03-2004 Total posts: 3775 |
From: DorothyL
Date: 04-09-2005, 05:35 PM (15 of 18)
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Pam, Well if she really cared ..... Dorothy |
User: DorothyL
Member since: 12-09-2002 Total posts: 3883 |
From: cclebl
Date: 04-28-2005, 02:29 PM (16 of 18)
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you can get some supplies to do this your self from this web site: http://www.dickblick.com/ I've suggested this product to some customers that want to do projects like what you have written about as my company has a minimum of 12 peices. http://www.dickblick.com/zz449/07/ It works well and looks much harder than it actually is. As far as your artwork goes you can scan your drawings and import them into your computer design software and edit them however they need to be done. I use Corel Draw and Adobe Illustrator. Carolyn
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User: cclebl
Member since: 04-25-2005 Total posts: 27 |
From: cclebl
Date: 04-28-2005, 02:48 PM (17 of 18)
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You can request a free catalog from dickblick.com and there are several other less expensive options for screen printing at home. I just pick that particular item because it comes with EVERYTHING you need. Including a book on how to do it. I have used the transfer paper before. I got mine at wal-mart in the office & photo paper section of the store. It has been my experience that the transfer material for a white shirts holds up better than the stuff for the dark shirts. I only use this stuff when I just have one or two t's I want to make. Sometimes I just print out an outline and iron it onto the shirt and use t-shirt paint (tulip-craft paint) and paint over the outline I ironed on. Carolyn
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User: cclebl
Member since: 04-25-2005 Total posts: 27 |
From: Llantrisant
Date: 05-29-2005, 12:56 PM (18 of 18)
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I bought a transfer pen a long time ago at a craft store,you draw a design on the paper let it dry ,then iron it on to the fabric.THen you can hand embrioder what u transfered or machine embriodery.WIth today's modern ideas though its time consuming to do the pen way lol.
If at first you don't suceed, try-try again!
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User: Llantrisant
Member since: 06-02-2002 Total posts: 144 
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