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From: Hippiegirl
Date: 04-18-2005, 12:26 AM (1 of 15)
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Does anyone know what models made by Pfaff are embroidery? I keep hearing of new ones and I want to look on ebay for a Pfaff machine for embroidery. These are the ones I know of so far: 2144 2140 2124 7570 1475 Are there any others? Thanks! HG |
User: Hippiegirl
Member since: 03-21-2005 Total posts: 77 |
From: Kylnne2
Date: 04-18-2005, 01:58 AM (2 of 15)
| HG, Did you check the Pfaff USA site? |
User: Kylnne2
Member since: 07-10-2004 Total posts: 629 |
From: Hippiegirl
Date: 04-18-2005, 11:04 AM (3 of 15)
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I did check their site. The Java is totally messed up on my computer so I cannot navigate their site. I have the same trouble with sewinginusa.com as well. If they write in Java for every click, I'm not able to use their site. Does the site have all their machines? Not just the new ones? |
User: Hippiegirl
Member since: 03-21-2005 Total posts: 77 |
From: MariLynnTX
Date: 04-20-2005, 07:54 PM (4 of 15)
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Some of those Pfaff machines are automatic embroidery and a couple are not. At least, I know the 1475 is not the automatic kind. I have a 1475 that I use continually. I do a lot of freemotion embroidery, too, which I love. In fact, I wrote a book about how to do it, with a lot of patterns and designs and instructions. I have a Deco 600 I have hardly even opened up, because I can't get interested in it; freemotion is so much more interesting. I like to do my own designs! MariLynntx
Life is a song...we give it harmony or dissonance.
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User: MariLynnTX
Member since: 08-13-2001 Total posts: 256 |
From: ArizonaStitcher
Date: 04-22-2005, 08:45 PM (5 of 15)
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to Hippiegirl -- the 2140 and 2144 are the same machine; they renumbered it when it got a new update, but the 2144 already had the new update on it. What I said doesn't make a lot of sense, but just know they're the same. The 7570 is the previous version of the 2140/44 -- but is not computer linked easily. The 2124 is a cheap (and I mean cheap) version of an embroidery machine. Doesn't have nearly the capability of the 2144. Don't know anything about the other one. I had the 7570 for a year, and have traded it in for the 2144, which I now have had for a year also. The 2144 is a miracle machine. Happy Stitchin' from sunny Arizona
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User: ArizonaStitcher
Member since: 12-21-2004 Total posts: 20 
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From: plrlegal
Date: 04-22-2005, 11:38 PM (6 of 15)
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Arizona Stitcher I was in my local Pfaff Center at JoAnn Fabrics today and saw the 2124 and asked about it. It is an embroidery/sewing machine which will do the same size embroidery fields as the 2140/44 but it has less built in decorative stitches. It is a lower priced model than the 2140/44 but it is by no means cheap in price, at least not to me. Through 4/23 (Saturday) they have it on special for $1,999.00 which is what i basically paid for my 2044/46 about 3 years ago plus all the extral feet that I have purchased for it at $20 - $30 a foot. The lady told me that the 2124 regularly sells for $2,200.00. I just wanted to post this in case someone would take your post to mean that the 2124 is cheap in price. Patsy Patsy
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User: plrlegal
Member since: 05-19-2001 Total posts: 318 |
From: ArizonaStitcher
Date: 04-23-2005, 11:59 AM (7 of 15)
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prlegal -- what I meant is that it's cheap compared to the 2144, but I have a friend who works for Pfaff and she said it's a cheap (as in not good quality) machine. I did some work on one at a demo, and it seemed fine, but she says it's not German engineered and it's made in Asia somewhere. Certainly $2000 is not cheap (as in inexpensive) but that's a lot less than the 2144! As with any choice in machine, we have to look at what the machine will do for our needs and also price. It's not WHAT we stitch on that counts, it's THAT we stitch! Happy Stitchin' from sunny Arizona
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User: ArizonaStitcher
Member since: 12-21-2004 Total posts: 20
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From: MariLynnTX
Date: 04-23-2005, 02:32 PM (8 of 15)
I tell you, anything that costs $2,000 is not cheap (in price) to me! I can't afford a new machine and that's all there is to it, so it's lucky for me that I don't even want one. I will just keep sewing on my 1475 which was top of the line when I paid about $2,400 for it. The dealer I bought it from wanted very much to get someone who sewed a lot and did specialty sewing, designing (I was getting my book finished at the time) and custom sewing to use it and talk about it, and also he felt sorry for me because my husband was in the hospital with his 4th heart attack, so I had a very special price. I have never spent money so wisely! I have never had to have any work done on it except for a very simple little part replacement once. I use it constantly.  MariLynntx
Life is a song...we give it harmony or dissonance.
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User: MariLynnTX
Member since: 08-13-2001 Total posts: 256 |
From: Hippiegirl
Date: 04-24-2005, 03:48 AM (9 of 15)
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YOU GUYS HAVE SAVED MY POCKETBOOK. I am so glad you have told me this. I only put $25 on it so far and I will let that go. I also read that it was a machine made when Singer was going to merge with Pfaff so I'm glad you mentioned it was not made in Germany or Poland. I would like your book on free motion embroidery. Please tell me where to get it. I like my dealer, but I don't like the idea of buying a Pfaff if its not european made. Thanks!!!!!!! |
User: Hippiegirl
Member since: 03-21-2005 Total posts: 77 |
From: Hippiegirl
Date: 04-24-2005, 04:44 AM (10 of 15)
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to Hippiegirl -- the 2140 and 2144 are the same machine; they renumbered it when it got a new update, but the 2144 already had the new update on it. What I said doesn't make a lot of sense, but just know they're the same. The 7570 is the previous version of the 2140/44 -- but is not computer linked easily. The 2124 is a cheap (and I mean cheap) version of an embroidery machine. Doesn't have nearly the capability of the 2144. Don't know anything about the other one. I had the 7570 for a year, and have traded it in for the 2144, which I now have had for a year also. The 2144 is a miracle machine. Did you like your 7570? I hear people like them. Also, what makes it difficult to connect to the computer? Thanks! HG |
User: Hippiegirl
Member since: 03-21-2005 Total posts: 77 |
From: MariLynnTX
Date: 04-24-2005, 11:11 AM (11 of 15)
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Hippiegirl, if you send me your e-mail address I will send my information letter on my book and my mailing address. I sell the book myself on the internet and it covers about everything that once was considered handwork, telling how to do it by machine. Send a private e-mail if you don't want your e-mail going out over the net or send to me at: <email address removed for privacy>
Life is a song...we give it harmony or dissonance.
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User: MariLynnTX
Member since: 08-13-2001 Total posts: 256 |
From: Hippiegirl
Date: 04-26-2005, 03:33 PM (12 of 15)
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prlegal -- what I meant is that it's cheap compared to the 2144, but I have a friend who works for Pfaff and she said it's a cheap (as in not good quality) machine. I did some work on one at a demo, and it seemed fine, but she says it's not German engineered and it's made in Asia somewhere. Certainly $2000 is not cheap (as in inexpensive) but that's a lot less than the 2144! As with any choice in machine, we have to look at what the machine will do for our needs and also price. It's not WHAT we stitch on that counts, it's THAT we stitch! AS, I went back to my dealer who sells Pfaff only and they said that Pfaff has never had a machine engineered anywhere else than Germany and showed me the 2124 on the back is made in Sweden. Is Pfaff putting Made in Sweden labels on the back of the aisan made machines in order to sell them? Would they do that? Also, she said the reason it's lower in price 2k is much lower than 6K- is because it's midline - not top of the line but 6x10 embroidery field machines are costly anyway.. I plan eventually in the next year to upgrade the 2124 to the 2144 since it is top on the line and the easiest way to get top of the line is do trade ins. Can you please tell me more about if Pfaff would misrepresent a machine? If your friend works for Pfaff, the company, why would she say that? Thanks! |
User: Hippiegirl
Member since: 03-21-2005 Total posts: 77 |
From: plrlegal
Date: 04-26-2005, 05:09 PM (13 of 15)
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Hippiegirl Pfaff is currently owned by Viking/Husqvarna so I doubt they would be able to put "Made in Sweden" labels on any machine and get by with it. I looked at the 2124 last week and it looks like a pretty decent sewing/embroidery machine to me. It just doesn't have all the bells and whistles that the 2144 has so I'm assuming that's why it's at a lower price. Patsy Patsy
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User: plrlegal
Member since: 05-19-2001 Total posts: 318 |
From: MariLynnTX
Date: 04-26-2005, 05:33 PM (14 of 15)
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Kelly, I don't think they would put Made in Sweden on an Asian-made machine, not if they wanted to sell it in the U.S. Our customs service laws are pretty adament, I've heard, that any appliance has to be correctly labeled about its point of origin if it is being sold here. If it is advertised as engineered in Germany it might be assembled and finished somewhere else but it had better BE engineered in Germany! I think that the cheaper price is what PRLEGAL said, 'not all the bells and whistles.' MariLynntx
Life is a song...we give it harmony or dissonance.
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User: MariLynnTX
Member since: 08-13-2001 Total posts: 256 |
From: ArizonaStitcher
Date: 04-27-2005, 11:46 PM (15 of 15)
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it's been a few days since I was on here. My friend worked at the local Pfaff dealer and that is what they told her, and then she told me. I did actually stitch on the 2124 and it seemed fine (which I said earlier). So I don't know what to tell you about the origins of this machine. She was told by Pfaff rep about the Asia thing, so now we have a mystery!! I do know one thing about reps though, -- sometimes they have misinformation and pass it along. I used to sell furniture and the rep told me lots of stuff that simply was not true. Maybe they just tell us what they think we should know so we can make a choice based on that ... i.e, buy the pricey model! If the 2124 has features that work for you AND it's the right price, go for it! The day I embroidered on it (at dealer), the educator showed us some gorgeous items she had done on it. I was so impressed that I bought a disposable camera next door and took pics -- amazing stuff -- and that's all that counts ... if the machine will do what you need it to do! Bottom line -- I have no idea who is telling the whole story to us. But Pfaff is not exactly owned by Husqvarna/Viking ... the same parent company owns both. AT least that's what the rep said 
Happy Stitchin' from sunny Arizona
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User: ArizonaStitcher
Member since: 12-21-2004 Total posts: 20
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