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From: MaryW
Date: 07-05-2005, 06:04 PM (1 of 29)
His new movie War of the Worlds is out. Has anyone seen it yet? Apparently it is doing ok in the box office but not great. I can't help but think all the publicity surrounding his new girlfriend and his beliefs had something to do with it. His visit with Oprah didn't exactly portray a man of stability either.

Is he losing it? I think not. I think Tom Cruise at 42 is celebrating that after two failed marriages someone that is only 23 yrs. old is ga-ga over him. What do you think?
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From: dmoses
Date: 07-05-2005, 07:02 PM (2 of 29)
I think he is desperate to be back in the public eye. Unlike him, Nicole Kidman did extremely well in her career, and was a favourite in the media after their break-up, without acting a fool.

I think his callous comments on a very serious condition(postpartum depression) reveal a lot about the kind of person he is...arrogant & self-absorbed...and that could turn a lot of people off.
Take care,
Donna
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From: MaryW
Date: 07-05-2005, 07:34 PM (3 of 29)
I agree, he is going to feel the heat from those remarks. I think Brooke Shields handled him quite handily.
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From: Dede
Date: 07-05-2005, 08:11 PM (4 of 29)
Well, he's not the first 40+ year old man going gaga over a 20+ year old woman. Being in the public eye sure isn't helping his case. He has a right to his beliefs and opinions BUT he should be man enough to admit he doesn't know everything. Now that's a sign of wisdom.
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From: Chrysantha
Date: 07-05-2005, 09:40 PM (5 of 29)
I've never been a fan of Tom Cruise....he's cute, but I've never sensed anything beyond the facade. (ie...theres not much there to interest me.....I like brainy men...) I just think he's acting like an idiot...It'll fade soon and it'll be something else. (now Brooke Shields...theres some class...)

btw...one of my fav movies has always been The War of the Worlds,(original movie version with Gene Barry....now there was a classy man...remember
him in Burke's Law ???)
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From: Saydee
Date: 07-06-2005, 12:18 AM (6 of 29)
Oh Yes what is he doing. I watched Oprah and couldn't get over his silly behaviour, in the end I switched him off, his giggling got tooooooooo much too bare.....do you think he is having a mid life crises. lol I am not a fan of his anyway but I felt rather embarrassed for him on the Oprah show. Silly man.
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From: DorothyL
Date: 07-06-2005, 07:08 AM (7 of 29)
I've never been a Tom Cruise fan and I don't really pay much attention to the actors' personal lives but I did notice (how could you not) he has a very young girl friend. I guess he can afford it.
We did go see War of the Worlds when we were at my daughter's house and found out the fireworks we planned on were the night before (good going kid).
I was on the edge of my seat, I'll admit. It was worth seeing, I thought, if you go to the movies a lot. If you only see a couple a year there is probably a better one out there. I thought it was a whole lot better than the new Brad Pitt one that they are making such a big deal of.
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From: sewerzzzzzz
Date: 07-06-2005, 08:31 AM (8 of 29)
Well, I'm 37 and my husband is 63. We met when I was 17 and started dating him when I was 19 and he was 44, just had our 10th wedding anniversary and are very happy. My husband is in fabulous shape and looks about 40 and I love him and get that tingly feeling everyday I wake up. The age issue never came up with us so I can't condemn Tom for that. I can't blame Katie, Tom's good looking and in great shape, she should go for it. We had some rough times and I dated other men before we got married but always kept thinking about my husband and kept going back to him.

I think Tom's going a little bonkers about this Scientology stuff and his so called knowledge of medication. I'm a pharmacist and I highly doubt that Tom (an actor) has studied psychiatry and can give advice to Brooke Shields, or any other person about how they should come off medication and take vitamins to cure themselves.
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From: dmoses
Date: 07-06-2005, 08:40 AM (9 of 29)
Maybe someone 'spiked' Tom's vitamins... :bluewink:
Take care,
Donna
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From: susies1955
Date: 07-06-2005, 09:13 AM (10 of 29)
I know this won't be a popular view but that is fine. :smile:
I think Tom Cruise is doing just fine. He is an example of a joyous life and I think it is super. Look at the laughter and joy that everyone had on the Ophra show and me included watching him.
He 'alone' is responsible for his life and it is no ones business.
As far as his comments go about drugs I think he is right on. Drugs never did anything for mankind except make mega bucks for the drug companies and COVER up problems within the body that can be changed with a RIGHT mind.
I think Tom and every other human being has a right to there opinion.
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From: dmoses
Date: 07-06-2005, 10:49 AM (11 of 29)
He 'alone' is responsible for his life and it is no ones business.
Susie

I would agree with this statement, but he certainly seems to be trying very hard to get the public to know his business and to care about it. However, if he wants people to stay out of his business, he should also realize that he must do the same for everyone else.

If he wants to embark on a vitamin and exercise regimen to cure *his* postpartum depression, and even to write a book about it, I say more power to him. However, his credentials hardly qualify him to dispense psychiatric advice to anyone else.
Take care,
Donna
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From: paroper
Date: 07-06-2005, 10:56 AM (12 of 29)
I think that he is just arrogant and vain and knows that he has looks and money. He figures that he can do or be anyone he wants to be because he has it made. I don't think he is crazy, I just don't think he cares what we think. He has really gotten into the Scientology and he is excited about that. Scientology is really big among several stars, but most of them are not so outspoken about their views. The beliefs are a little "different" than most religions and not taking prescription drugs is part of it.

I did notice something that rather bothered me about his reaction to the reporter who squirted him in the face. He started to laugh it off and be a "good sport" about the thing and then he changed. It occured to me that perhaps he wanted the guy to stop the behavior and he thought embarrassing him would do it. I didn't think either behavior was necessarily wrong, I just thought that the way he changed was odd. They say that your first response is usually a truer picture of "you". If that is the case, maybe he is just a nice guy under all that show.
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From: susies1955
Date: 07-06-2005, 12:22 PM (13 of 29)
if he wants people to stay out of his business, he should also realize that he must do the same for everyone else.

Donna,
In the same way that what Tom does is his business "yes" Brooke Shields business is hers. His opinion is his and hers is hers. They can share opinions and still respect each other as the wonderful people they are. I remember Tom saying she was a wonderful person and super actress but that he didn't share her way of handling her problems. I think in a free choice, free thinking society everyone should be able to have their views and everyone be respected for them.
Why is it that when someone speaks something opposed to the way they are thinking they are automatically considered wrong. Is there a wrong thinking?
Jesus was living proof that you can have a view that is different and people will not like it and will sometimes do anything to shut you up. :)
In my opinion it doesn't make Tom right or Brooke right it makes them both unique people that choose to live there lives in a unique way.
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From: Dede
Date: 07-06-2005, 01:10 PM (14 of 29)
We met when I was 17 and started dating him when I was 19 and he was 44

It is always nice to hear about stories such as yours. I'm happy for you. People would have had the same reaction as us if you were in the public eye; I guess it's human nature.

I will not pass any comments on the kind of person he or she is as I don't know them and we see what the media wants us to see. It sells and they know it. We are being fed bits and pieces; we don't know what's going on behind closed doors and what really happens when they are allowed to live their lives.
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From: LeapFrog Libby
Date: 07-06-2005, 01:50 PM (15 of 29)
My father quoted this to us, til we learned to live by it... "Don't criticize a man til you have walked a mile in his shoes." I try my best to live by this, as well as other things that very wise man taught me...
Sew With Love
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From: dmoses
Date: 07-06-2005, 02:01 PM (16 of 29)
I remember Tom saying she was a wonderful person and super actress but that he didn't share her way of handling her problems.

When a compliment is followed by 'but', then it is really just 'fluff'. The implication is that while she may be wonderful, etc., she isn't smart enough, or knowledgeable enough to handle her own problem...which she overcame, by the way, with the help of real doctors. The effect of her ordeal was so strong that she felt compelled to write about it, not to give an opinion on the use of drugs, but to share her experience with others who have dealt with, or may in the future, deal with the same devastating illness.


Why is it that when someone speaks something opposed to the way they are thinking they are automatically considered wrong. Is there a wrong thinking?


In the 'gospel according to Tom'(tongue firmly implanted in cheek), there *is* wrong thinking...Brooke Shields was wrong to think that psychiatrists and prescription drugs could help her deal with her illness.

If he had made his point in personal terms...i.e. I don't believe in the use of prescription drugs or psychiatry...then he would have been merely stating his opinion. However, he chose to direct his remarks towards an individual who had just been through a terrible ordeal that he, himself, can never experience. That is the insult.
Take care,
Donna
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From: plrlegal
Date: 07-06-2005, 02:35 PM (17 of 29)
I would like to express my opinion of Tom Cruise, for whatever it is or is not worth -- he's a class A jerk! And, by the way, I really had a hard time grasping the comparison of Tom Cruise and Brook Shields to Jesus. I doubt very seriously that the opinions expressed by either Brook Shields or Tom Cruise about anything will stand the test of time as compared to the teachings of Jesus Christ and also, the statements made by Jesus were not opinions, they were life altering teachings that have stood the test of time, i.e., 2000+ years.

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From: Sewhappie
Date: 07-06-2005, 03:06 PM (18 of 29)
He's a jerk who would do better to keep his mouth shut about Post Partum Depression and it's affects on women.
Until he's carried a baby around inside his stomach for 9 months in 85-90 degree heat, had his guts kicked out, lost control of his bladder, has heartburn 24/7, had hundreds of hands touching your stomach, had back labor only to end up with a Emergency C-Section, not once but twice. NOT knowing at the time of delivery if the baby was going to live or not, because it was in fetal stress. See if HE doesn't have something go wacky with his body once the Hormones start doing "their" thing!!!!!
If a women could control NOT having PPD, don't you think that we would make the choice not to have it!!!! Sometimes we just don't snap out of it and DO NEED the help of meds to get back on track. Look at Marie Osmond when she had her bout with depression after baby #9? She's doing fine now and engouraging women to not be affair to seek help for Depression. Tom's coments undermind all that.
Personally I don't like the man, never had and I don't think it will work out with Kate. I think that he treated Nicole Kidman like dirt and is jealous of her success after their divorce.
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From: susies1955
Date: 07-06-2005, 04:37 PM (19 of 29)
All I was trying to say was that EVERY person on this planet has the God given right to say what they want to say weather popular or not and I never once said that Tom or Brooke's comments would stand the test of time. All I said was that Jesus said some radical things too and some people didn't care for it.
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From: natred2
Date: 07-06-2005, 09:16 PM (20 of 29)
I could not stomach his moronic behavior either... that is what the off button is for on the remote ;)

I personally like him in some of his movies.. however, his public display of his personal life is revolting...as are many of them in Hollywood. I wish they (celebs) would keep their personal dramas out of the media. I am not that interested in knowing, and only believe 1/10th of the print. I do not consider "who's sleeping with whom" news.


Just my humble opinion
Don't be so open minded your brains fall out.
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From: DorothyL
Date: 07-07-2005, 07:30 AM (21 of 29)
Isn't it funny how they all have some big personal issue right about the time a new movie comes out?
Dorothy
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From: plrlegal
Date: 07-07-2005, 01:49 PM (22 of 29)
The "pretty faces" in Hollywood have jumped in and out of so many beds and fathered so many children that quite possibly brothers and sisters will eventually marry one another without even knowing they are related. Most of those people are so vain and empty headed who really cares what they do or do not think? :re:

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From: paroper
Date: 07-07-2005, 01:52 PM (23 of 29)
Not to mention how out of touch they are.
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From: Magot
Date: 07-07-2005, 02:00 PM (24 of 29)
I enjoy films that Tom Cruise has been in , I know nothing of his personal views but am amused by the scientology thing. It is my understanding that is a religion invented by science fiction writer L Ron Hubbard who wanted to proves that you could invent a religion that people would follow. The royalties from sale of books is still rolling in and L Ron is laughing all the way to the bank on the back of the public. I may be wrong here - anybody know anything else?
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From: Chrysantha
Date: 07-07-2005, 04:25 PM (25 of 29)
Yeah...L. Ron has been dead for many years....so his family gets the money from all the Sci Fi/Religion books...
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From: plrlegal
Date: 07-07-2005, 08:53 PM (26 of 29)
Just proves a saying that I've heard all my life -- "If you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything!"

Patsy
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From: Sewhappie
Date: 07-07-2005, 09:46 PM (27 of 29)
I'm starting the "Church of Trekkes" we will worship Tribbles. Anyone want to join for $1,000,000.00 each?

I promise that they will clear your mind and your souls!!!!! Captain Kirk will lead us all to a "better future and life" with all his little furry "friends".


Move over Ron L.
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From: Catalina
Date: 07-09-2005, 09:55 AM (28 of 29)
I don't pay too much attention to this stuff, but I seen him on the ophra show, and I kinda was embarrased for his new girlfriend, Nicole and Penelope Cruise, he kinda acted like he was never in love before and this was all new to him. He was married to Nicole for almost 10 years. I just got the impression he really needed someone that adores him and is naive. I was not at all impressed by his behavior and when did he go to school to learn about mental disease. Nichole has done much better than him since their breakup.Of course I like men that are more reserved and act more their age, and don't think they know it all.
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From: DorothyL
Date: 07-09-2005, 11:04 AM (29 of 29)
I don't really care a fig about Tom Cruise.
I'm not at all a religious person and I'm not particularly politically correct but I thought making fun of other people's religion is off limits on these boards.
I realize I am not the content police, but personally I find it offensive.
If I am banned from the boards for that, so be it. I believe it is important to speak up against such prejudice.
Dorothy
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