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From: blackie
Date: 07-23-2005, 04:40 PM (1 of 8)
I am making a snap-brim hat for my daughter. The pattern is McCall's 4607 (http://www.mccallpattern.com/item/M4607.htm) (View A) and I have everything I need except buckram. I don't think I can get it in this town.

Can I subsitute something else? I have some denim. Anyone else here into millinery?
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From: SummersEchos
Date: 07-23-2005, 04:49 PM (2 of 8)
Buckram is an very stiff interfacing made out of either linen or cotton. At the JoAnn's I work at it is under the cutting counter. It has no bulk but makes what ever you put it in very stiff. Buckram was more popluar back in the days of stiff pleats and hat making. I would check the interfacing depts of your fabric stores for it, ask the sales people. Otherwise find something that is stiff with no bulk to use instead.
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From: LeapFrog Libby
Date: 07-23-2005, 05:48 PM (3 of 8)
I think that that interfacing for fabric bowls should be a substitute for buckram.. It seems to do the same thing.. I have never used it, but I have read an awful lot about it.. In the store, it has about the same feel as buckram..(as far as stiffness goes)
BTW, Blackie , if you have ever handled pinch pleated drapes.. buckram is the interfacing used to keep the tops stiff and upright when you are pleating them..
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From: DorothyL
Date: 07-23-2005, 06:18 PM (4 of 8)
When I bought buckram it was under the counter at a Joann's, like at Summer's Joann's.
It originally was made from horse or goat hair I believe but I don't think the stuff you get at Joann's is.
It didn't hold up well to handling very well, I doubt it would be much good if washed, although the lady at Joann's said it is washable.
I bought some that was called goat hair canvas at a little independent fabric store and it held up much better but they didn't recommend washing.
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From: paroper
Date: 07-23-2005, 11:10 PM (5 of 8)
I wouldn't use the bowl stuff because it is pretty thick and bulky. Buckram is cool stuff but it doesn't like water. I've used a couple layers very heavy interfacing and I've used strange things like clean (rinsed) Clorox bottles....don't mind me, I made a panda mask out of a Clorox jug once along with white fur, black mesh and felt.... Anything that will give structure to the brim will work so just be creative.
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From: sewingrandma
Date: 07-24-2005, 09:22 AM (6 of 8)
I've even used the plastic you make quilt template out of.
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From: AndreaSews
Date: 07-24-2005, 07:03 PM (7 of 8)
When I needed buckram for pinch-pleated drapes last year, nobody at the fabric store even knew what I was talking about. Then, in walked a more...seasoned seamstress, and she knew just what I meant. She told me that few people call it that anymore. Unfortunately I can not remember the more contemporary name for it! She said they occasionally have it by the bolt in the interfacing section, but then she took me over to the home-dec area, by drapery hardware, and there were several rolls of buckram. Since it's more often used in the tops of pleated drapes that hang from drapery hooks, they sell it in narrow widths, by the yard on spools, rather than bolts. Anyway, it is entirelyt possible that the product is available in the very store where you shop, but that the staff may not be familiar with the term buckram. Keep looking, and maybe get a thesaurus!!
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From: Magot
Date: 07-25-2005, 02:36 PM (8 of 8)
I have used buckram for millinery. The stuff I have used is a VERY stiff coarse woven canvas made with jute or something similar and stiffened with starch. It is not able to withstand rain/washing or what ever as it will remove the stiffening. I would consider using a modern alternative - plastic canvas which you cover with heavy cotton(to get rid of rough edges) to make a washable hat for a small sprog.

My buckram was used to make a french hood for a period costume like here http://www.ninyamikhaila.com/frenchhood.html - you can substitute old wire coat hangers if you can't get the the galvanised wire.
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