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From: SewNowWhat
Date: 10-28-2005, 07:15 PM (1 of 22)
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I bought an omega sewing machine and just started using it today. I threaded it everything, when i started sewing I started the stitch, backstitched, and then continued on. It sewed a few stitches and then sounded like it was jammed up. I pulled the fabric out and the thread coming from underneath was bunched up in a huge mass on the back of the fabric and there was bobbin thread in the mechanism underneath. I cleaned all the thread out, made sure to double check everything in the manual, and started again. this time, the needle won't "catch" the thread from the bobbin at all. I even tried changing the needle but nothing helped. any advice? i've already been through the instruction manual and a few troubleshooting pages. |
User: SewNowWhat
Member since: 10-28-2005 Total posts: 8 |
From: DragonLady
Date: 10-28-2005, 07:47 PM (2 of 22)
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Sounds like it either isn't threaded exactly right, or like the bobbin is in wrong. I'd completely rethread it, and see if that helps.
"No more twist! No more twist!"
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User: DragonLady
Member since: 11-10-2004 Total posts: 152 
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From: 1*sewer
Date: 10-28-2005, 09:29 PM (3 of 22)
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I experienced somtehing similar. My needle wouldn't catch my thread from the bobbin either. It dawned on me that the manual said to make sure that the bobbin turned clokwise in the bobbin holder. As it turned out, my bobbin was turning counterclockwise and that is why when I tried to sew it would do a couple of stitches and then jam up and thread would be wrapped all around the bobbin holder area. To test the rotation of my bobbin the manual suggested to insert your bobbin in the bobbin holder the way the instructions say and hold the little thread that they tell you is supposed to be out and give it a light little tug like a yo-yo (but not too hard). When doing this, the bobbin should turn clockwise. Then make sure your needle is in its highest position and put the bobbin holder back in the machine. Make sure that when you put your bobbin back in that the little thread that is supposed to be out is in the right place. On my bobbin holder there's a little hook or groove like thing that the thread is supposed to stay in. Once your bobbin holder is in and that area is closed off, manually lower your needle. Once your needle goes down and comes back up you should see the loop of thread come up from the bobbin area. On my machine I had to lower my needle twice and then the loop came up and I had no more problems. Hope this helps you out! 
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User: 1*sewer
Member since: 09-09-2005 Total posts: 27 |
From: bridesmom
Date: 10-29-2005, 05:23 AM (4 of 22)
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I totally agree with*1 sewer, it sounds like the bobbin is in backwards or upside down. I'd also make sure that you don't have any threads caught up inside the bobbin holder in the machine.
Laura
Tickled pink with my Innovis 4000D |
User: bridesmom
Member since: 01-21-2004 Total posts: 2026 |
From: DorothyL
Date: 10-29-2005, 09:22 AM (5 of 22)
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All that and be sure the pressure foot is up when you thread the tension disks. Dorothy |
User: DorothyL
Member since: 12-09-2002 Total posts: 3883 |
From: SewNowWhat
Date: 10-29-2005, 03:28 PM (6 of 22)
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the pressure foot was up, i've made sure the bobbin is going the right way, and no threads are stuck in it but it's still not catching. the little thread that is supposed to hang out (my instructions for this machine are terrible....) where is it supposed to hang out when it's through the eyelet on the bobbin holder? |
User: SewNowWhat
Member since: 10-28-2005 Total posts: 8 |
From: DragonLady
Date: 10-29-2005, 03:35 PM (7 of 22)
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The thread that is through the eyelet of the bobbin? That shouldn't hang out at all. The end of the thread should just come up through the edge of the cover so you can pull it to the back with the needle thread. Then when you make your first stitch, the machine should catch it and raise it through the hole in the needle plate.
"No more twist! No more twist!"
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User: DragonLady
Member since: 11-10-2004 Total posts: 152
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From: woodywoodpecker
Date: 10-29-2005, 09:25 PM (8 of 22)
| Assumming you have it threaded correctly, bobbin in proper, ect ect., when you turn your hand wheel to bring up the bobbin thread( there is a piece of thread sticking out right?) hold the needle thread between your fingers snuggly. The bobbin thread should come up. When you start sewing you might want to hold the bobbin thread and needle thread in your fingers for a couple of stitches as well. If I don't do this on mine it makes a rat's nest on the under side of the material or makes a big mess under then needle plate which is a real pain to get out with out wrecking something. Hope this helps. |
User: woodywoodpecker
Member since: 11-07-2003 Total posts: 242 |
From: 1*sewer
Date: 10-30-2005, 12:23 AM (9 of 22)
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the little thread that is supposed to hang out (my instructions for this machine are terrible....) where is it supposed to hang out when it's through the eyelet on the bobbin holder? - SewNowWhat The thread that you use to test the tension when you pull it like a yo-yo, according to my manual, it never said to cut it and so I leave the little piece just sticking out once I place my bobbin case back. I just make sure that when I put my bobbin case back that I do as the book says. I lift the latch and place bobbin case fully onto the pin of the sewing hook making sure that the opening of the bobbin case is facing upwards. Then, I release the latch and push it in (not hard at all, I usually hear a little click). Then, the instructions say to pull the thread sharply (this is to check that the bobbin case does not fall off of the hook). I then make sure that my thread is nestled in the little hook on my bobbin case and the loose piece is sticking away from the bobbin case because my manual never instructed me to cut it. I then close the cover to the bobbin area. I haven't had any problems when doing this so far. But, as I said before I have to lower my needle at least twice before I see the loop. Question: When you rethreaded your machine did you make sure that your needle was in its highest position so that you can pull your thread into the take up lever from left to right (the take up lever is the metal lever that goes up and down as the needle goes up and down)? Note: I am a beginner sewer also and this is how I do it on my Pfaff 7570 and I am assuming that this is the basic functions for any brand of sewing machine. I just had a similar problem and solved it this way and I am hoping that this works for you too! 
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User: 1*sewer
Member since: 09-09-2005 Total posts: 27 |
From: SewNowWhat
Date: 10-30-2005, 03:02 AM (10 of 22)
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I'll try to get someone who knows sewing machines to help me with it, I"m sure I've done something wrong. It seems that when the bobbin is in the holder and i put the needle down with the knob, either the needle doesn't go down far enough or the bobbin thread isn't getting moved by the mechanism. thanks for the tips so far, once i get this figured out i should be good to go hehehe |
User: SewNowWhat
Member since: 10-28-2005 Total posts: 8 |
From: DorothyL
Date: 10-30-2005, 06:55 AM (11 of 22)
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Maybe you aren't starting with a long enough bobbin thread to start with -- try leaving about four or five inches. Dorothy |
User: DorothyL
Member since: 12-09-2002 Total posts: 3883 |
From: woodywoodpecker
Date: 10-30-2005, 10:27 AM (12 of 22)
| This is likely a "dumb question" as the saying goes, but my bobbin case does have a little "eyelet" hole but I have never ever threaded my bobbin thread thru it. I have had and used this machine for over 30 years and never did ever question what this hole was actually for. Has anyone else ever quetioned this? Does anyone actually use this hole? I have my foot pedal in at a repair shop and I'm suppose to pick it up tomorrow and I'll try to remember to ask what this hole is for? |
User: woodywoodpecker
Member since: 11-07-2003 Total posts: 242 |
From: Magot
Date: 10-30-2005, 11:30 AM (13 of 22)
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Sometimes when filling the bobbin I poke a bit of thread through the little hole in the bobbin and hold it until the thread is winding well. When I then load the bobbin I have this tail trimmed off. I do this more on my Janome than I ever did on my Jones as it seems the Janome is a bit more 'skiddy' when winding the bobbin. Jones never did anything fast... I would make sure the you have lifted the bobbin thread as previously suggested (hand turning the needle and pull the needle thread gently after one stitch - this will raise the loop of the bobbin thread. Then pull that through to the top.) and make sure when you start to sew that you have about 4-5 inches each of the bobbin and needle thread held firmly at the back of the machine. I would sew a short way (4/5 stitches) before you backstitch to secure the thread and then sew on. love and kisses, Jan
Guts-R-Us Cells a Speciality DNA to order. |
User: Magot
Member since: 12-22-2002 Total posts: 3626 
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From: LeapFrog Libby
Date: 10-30-2005, 06:50 PM (14 of 22)
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Jan, I believe she is talking about a case that the bobbin fits into, and then you insert the case into the machine.. Our machines don't do that.. Or, mine doesn't , anyway.. My Janome has a drop in bobbin .. I assume yours does , also..
Sew With Love
Libby |
User: LeapFrog Libby
Member since: 05-01-2002 Total posts: 2022 
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From: gm23237
Date: 10-30-2005, 10:06 PM (15 of 22)
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All I can add to the helpful hints here is you may have not filled the bobbin correctly, as others said, you may have missed one place on your threading the machine, check you tention. Good luck, sewing even after 25 years gets me frustrated now and then. I have learned not to push myself and if I am not in the mood to sew, I don't. Oh, stick with this discussion board, the people here are fantastic! 
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User: gm23237
Member since: 11-03-2003 Total posts: 145 
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From: toadusew
Date: 10-31-2005, 09:27 AM (16 of 22)
| My mom had a similar problem recently. She has a Janome 8000 and it kept jamming on her. I made sure everything was threaded correctly and the bobbin in correct place, etc. but after she tried sewing a bit more, it jammed again. Part of the problem was that when she re-threaded, she didn't have the machine threaded properly and she didn't have the bobbin in correctly either. When we finally got the throat plate off and took the bobbin case out, there was a huge bird's nest of thread under the bobbin case. Once I removed that and put the bobbin case back into place, she hasn't had any more problems. This is also a drop in bobbin, but you might want to check to make sure there aren't any loose threads or snarls someplace in your machine that is jamming it somehow. |
User: toadusew
Member since: 01-08-2005 Total posts: 369 |
From: Magot
Date: 10-31-2005, 12:22 PM (17 of 22)
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My Janome has a drop in bobbin Libs, but Jones had a vertical bobbin that sat in a little case with a lever door handle type thingie to make sure it latched into position. You still have to get the bobbin the right way round in the bobbin case so that the thread unwinds either clockwise or anticlockwise (depends on your machine I think) The thread has to pass under the tensioning spring on the outside of the bobbin case and then the stitich is formed the same way. I would still cut off the little tail that sticks out of the bobbin when it is wound and use the free end to load the bobbin case. Swe what Now?Are we getting anywhere to solve your problem or are you just confused with the mountain of cheerful advice? love and kisses, Jan
Guts-R-Us Cells a Speciality DNA to order. |
User: Magot
Member since: 12-22-2002 Total posts: 3626
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From: SewNowWhat
Date: 10-31-2005, 01:23 PM (18 of 22)
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it's helping, i'll try removing the plate thingy on the top of the machine to see if there is any thread in there. what seems to be happening is that the mechanism that goes around in a circle back and forth around the bobbin is moving like it should, but not catching the bobbin thread in order to push it wherever it's supposed to go. the top part of the machine seems to be working ok, so i think it's threaded properly. |
User: SewNowWhat
Member since: 10-28-2005 Total posts: 8 |
From: bridesmom
Date: 10-31-2005, 10:49 PM (19 of 22)
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Just a thought, is your needle in properly, or backwards??
Laura
Tickled pink with my Innovis 4000D |
User: bridesmom
Member since: 01-21-2004 Total posts: 2026 |
From: woodywoodpecker
Date: 10-31-2005, 10:54 PM (20 of 22)
| I checked with the sewing shop today about the little eyelet hole in the bobbin case and they told me it is used for bobbin work. You are able to by-pass the tension spring in the case and use heavy thread ie: crochet thread and stuff like that. Apparently it's suppose to be an incoming thing to do again. |
User: woodywoodpecker
Member since: 11-07-2003 Total posts: 242 |
From: SewNowWhat
Date: 11-02-2005, 02:04 AM (21 of 22)
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i took the machine back, i give up. i was going to get a brother but they were sold out, so i'll get the new one next week when they're in 
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User: SewNowWhat
Member since: 10-28-2005 Total posts: 8 |
From: Magot
Date: 11-02-2005, 12:29 PM (22 of 22)
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Fair enough - don't let one bad apple put you off sewing.
love and kisses, Jan
Guts-R-Us Cells a Speciality DNA to order. |
User: Magot
Member since: 12-22-2002 Total posts: 3626
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