From: sewingrandma
Date: 11-08-2005, 12:45 PM (1 of 24)
I'm back with another fleece question. I've searched SWN boards and the internet but can't find what I need. I know fleece doesn't really need to have a facing but the pattern that I'm using is a V neck and I think it would look better with one. I don't want to use the fleece as the facing as it would be very bulky. Which would be better to use, a woven or a knit? I'm thinking knit as the fleece does stretch a bit. Any other options, opinions? Thanks again. BTW, I still don't like sewing with fleece but hey, I'm a grandma and we tend to do what the grands want
Brockie
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From: AndreaSews
Date: 11-08-2005, 03:56 PM (2 of 24)
Does this pattern package recommend fleece? I agree with you--If I were going to apply a facing, then I'd want to find a fabric that has the same stretch as the fashion fabric. And I agree that a fleee facing would be too bulky.
Andrea
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From: SummersEchos
Date: 11-08-2005, 04:25 PM (3 of 24)
Brockie, I'm with you fleece is not one of my favorites either. Can you turn the fleece under to make a self facing? Or in one pattern I have for a jumper they use bias tape for the facing. Use it like you would use it for any other pattern. Let us know what you use and how you like it. Summer
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From: paroper
Date: 11-08-2005, 04:43 PM (4 of 24)
I'd tend to use the bias tape too. It sure might look cute (depending on the pattern) with a print or a cool contrasting color in the neckline. If you need the neck to stretch, I wouldn't settle for anything but knit. However, I've had some pretty cool sweatshirts that hand printed flannel or cotton in the necks and it hasn't been a problem. Since the neckline needs to be stable, I don't think that a cotton would necessarily be a bad choice (as I said before unless you need the "v" to stretch...then it would absolutely be OUT).
pam
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From: sewingrandma
Date: 11-08-2005, 06:32 PM (5 of 24)
The pattern, New Look 6131 does call for fleece. I'm undecided how I'm going to do the neckline for now. I think I need to look thru my stash and see what I have that would look cute, either as a bias tape or as a facing. I may even just turn under the seam allowance. Thanks all for you ideas. I'll let you know what I do and how it looks.
Brockie
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From: DorothyL
Date: 11-09-2005, 07:58 AM (6 of 24)
If you just turn it under maybe you have a fancy stitch to use for top stitching as a design feature? Dorothy |
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From: sewingrandma
Date: 11-16-2005, 03:59 PM (7 of 24)
I just finished the fleece pjs. Still don't like working with fleece though! I stay stitched the neckline and clipped to the V and turned under the seam allowance and put some interfacing at the V to reinforce it and stitched. It looks nice and pulling on it doesn't stretch it out of shape so hopefully a 4 yr old won't pull it out of shape either. Thanks again for everyone's suggestions.
Brockie
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From: LauraM62
Date: 11-17-2005, 08:51 AM (8 of 24)
I've used ribbing for the necklines on fleece tops, also fold-over-elastic works great. Also lycra stretch fabric as a binding works great. As a matter of fact I noticed allot of RTW tops made in curly fleece with fold over elastic for the neckline. I have a double fleece coat I getting ready to make that does call for interfacing in the collar, it suggests knit interfacing for the collar of the fleece coat. This will be the first time I've used interfacing though on fleece
LauraM
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From: Catalina
Date: 11-17-2005, 09:22 AM (9 of 24)
Laura, I did use iron on interfacing on the collar of my fleece jacket- it was a stand up collar and work fine- I should add I even washed the jacket and it was fine afterward too). Just use a press cloth. another fleece questions. I used a fleece facing on my front zipper but for my next jacket I would like to use a thinner fabric, but I want a facing for the neater look. What type of fabric. Maybe a poly/cotton after a couple washings so it won't shrink. Any ideas what fabrics are suitable to combine with fleece so its compatable in the wash? Thanks. |
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From: DorothyL
Date: 11-17-2005, 09:40 AM (10 of 24)
The fleece jacket I started yesterday calls for iron on interfacing so I'm going to try it. Dorothy |
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From: bunzino
Date: 11-18-2005, 09:51 PM (11 of 24)
Summers - why don't you like fleece? nancy |
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From: Sancin
Date: 11-19-2005, 03:39 PM (12 of 24)
Catalina You really don't need a facing in a jacket with a zipper. Just trim away any access close to the zipper cloth after you have sewn in the zipper. Or install the zipper on the right side then turn in and top stitch. This makes a nice finish to a jacket Another way is to line the jacket. Line it in the envelope style and when you turn it inside out then your lining becomes your interfacing. You do this after you have sewn in the zipper being careful to ensure the zipper coil is exposed. I can't explain this very well but perhaps our champion explainer, Paroper can. Good luck. Bunzino - I think some people don't like working with fleece because of it's bulk, lint and the fact that it tends to dull scissors and rotary cutters. Or.... some people just don't like some fabrics, like some people don't like wool. *~*~*~* Nancy*~*~*~* " I try to take one day at a time - but sometimes several days attack me at once."
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From: paroper
Date: 11-19-2005, 05:40 PM (13 of 24)
Sancin, I thought you did a good job of explaining it.
pam
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From: ladylin
Date: 11-22-2005, 11:03 AM (14 of 24)
Sancin and/or Paroper, I have not heard of the envelope lining method. Is there someplace I can read up on it? I made a jacket out of faux suede and was to line it. The method that was taught in the class was very confusing. We had to turn one sleeve inside out or something like that. It has been hanging for over a year. I just have not gotten the courage up to finish it. Lin
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From: paroper
Date: 11-22-2005, 11:16 AM (15 of 24)
Ladylin, the way that I get my sleeves sewn in is hard to explain, but let me try. First, make sure that the sleeve will finish out at the correct length. If your lining is shorter than the sleeve, it is easier to hem to sleeve, then make sure that the lining is shorter than the sleeve and blind stitch the lining to the sleeve about 1/4 of an inch up under the lining so that the lining will come down over the stitching and hide it....THAT's the old-fashioned way. Another way to do it is to take the sleeve, put the lining inside the sleeve. Match it so that it is not twisted and is in the sleeve just as you would wear it. Put a pin or safety pin both sleeves together at the bottom seam. Pull the sleeve through the bottom of the coat. Now, using that pin as a reference point, pin the sleeve and lining together around the cuff. You will have to eventually take the first pin out and reverse the pinning...but that is ok...it is just to make sure you don't twist the sleeves or pin them together backwards. The sleeve will twist. Don't let that worry you. It may actually twist more on the lining side...fine. After you have pinned, untwist the sleeve as much as possible and sew. If you are doing a heavy fabric, you may have to do the seam in two part so that you can handle the fabric. Fine, as long as you sew all the way around the bottom. Trim your seam, remove your pins and pull them back through the sleeve of the coat and press. You should have a finished seam. Somewhere in the arm along the seam line, you will want to put some stitches, you can do this by hand or machine just to tack the lining into the sleeve so that it won't slip out of position when you put it on. Also, under the arm, tack the lining to avoid it reversing the coat when you take it off and help hold it in position. pam
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From: SummersEchos
Date: 11-22-2005, 11:54 AM (16 of 24)
Nancy, Fleece is way to warm for me. I am a naturally hot bodied person and to add fleece I am sweating. I work in a fabric store and cut tons of fleece. I think that has something to do with it too. To much of one thing makes one get tired of it. The new fuzzy/curly fleece I think is cute, but not for me. I have made clothes for the GC out of fleece, and some vests for my children, I do enjoy seeing what everyone has made out of fleece, and I do own a double fleece winter jacket that I made. I have worn it once, usually put it on my mom for the warmth. Now my YS loves fleece as she is always cold. I have made her some shrugs to help keep the chill out, and a fleece bathrobe. I have BOUGHT her some fleece tops, and she loves them. It is just that I am not one of the fans of fleece. Summer
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From: Sancin
Date: 11-22-2005, 05:31 PM (17 of 24)
Summer Echos - I agree about fleece being hot and just left a message on the beginning sews discussion about robes made of it. Have you seen the micro fleeces? They are almost like a fine velvet (on both sides). I made several tunics (loose) that I wear all the time. They are warm but the looseness helps to keep them from being too hot. I didn't do anything about facing or binding them as the edges clean cut, don't shed or curl. I made a pattern from a heavier fleece tunic my daughter wears.
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From: ladylin
Date: 11-23-2005, 09:32 AM (18 of 24)
Paroper, Thanks so much! That makes sense. One more question. Do I sew the lining in the sleeve first or after I sew the lining to the rest of the jacket (minus a section along the bottom which is left open for pulling the sleeve through)? This has been so helpful! I just may be able to FINALLY finish this project. Lin
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From: paroper
Date: 11-23-2005, 09:38 AM (19 of 24)
You almost have to sew the lining in the jacket first. I sew the bottom of the jacket last. That way I have plenty of room to work. When it is finished, I sew as close as I can. Sometimes I even turn almost the whole jacket and "work in the hole" that is left. I hate to sew by hand. When it gets too small to stitch, then I finish up the seam by hand.
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From: ladylin
Date: 11-23-2005, 10:53 AM (20 of 24)
Paroper, Thanks so much! Maybe I will FINALLY finish this project. I do have another question. Do I sew the sleeve lining first or after I sew the rest of the lining (except a small space in the bottom where the sleeve is pulled through)? Lin
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From: paroper
Date: 11-23-2005, 11:02 AM (21 of 24)
Assemble the entire lining just like the coat. Attach the lining to the coat by stitching both fronts and across the back. Leave the bottom lining entirely open. Turn the entire jacket right side out (if you sew the sleeves before this, the garment won't turn.) Pull the sleeves into the jacket bertween the lining and the coat, inverting the sleeves as they come down (of course). Sew the sleeves. Once the sleeves are in place, pin the bottom and then pin inside the sleeves up to a space somewhere around the elbow. This is just to keep the proper spacing. Tack lightly at the elbow by hand or machine on the seamline. (I usually just sew about an inch or two of the seams together. Move up to the neck, tack the seams at the center back, lower collar if there is one so that the lining won't crawl, a slight tack at each shoulder (I just tack the seams together on all of these.) Tack under the arm at where the 4 seams would join (lining to jacket again). If the coat is long, tack about half way down the side seams. The side tack can be optional if it is short. The tacks will keep the sleeves or the lining from riding up or inverting when you take your coat on and off. (I don't like a coat where the lining goes into the sleeves when you put it on and inverts the sleeve when you take it off. Sew the bottom of the jacket last. Sew as much as you can by machine, then sew the remaining portion by hand. You might prefer to leave the slit in the back near a side seam. The center back and the front are very visual spots. pam
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From: Catalina
Date: 11-23-2005, 11:10 AM (22 of 24)
Pam- What a good explanation you gave- thank you. |
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From: ladylin
Date: 11-23-2005, 03:14 PM (23 of 24)
Paroper, Thanks so much! I think I might actually get this project finished!!!! Have a GREAT Thanksgiving! Lin
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From: Sancin
Date: 11-24-2005, 05:31 AM (24 of 24)
Paroper - you really are VERY good at explaining things. Congratulations! Even though I know how to do many things I still cut and paste some of your explanations for the times friends ask me and I don't know how to start. Happy Thanksgiving to all our south of the border friends. Here in the great white north - no white! *~*~*~* Nancy*~*~*~* " I try to take one day at a time - but sometimes several days attack me at once."
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