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From: Cant-sew-a-lick
Date: 11-13-2005, 07:01 PM (1 of 18)
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I am trying to make this dog coat, I have the material and the pattern. I read all the instructions and am ready to pin the pattern pieces on the fabric. Good so far, then I look at the way the pattern layout is and it doesn't make any sense. It is supposed to be 2 solid pieces sewn together for a double thickness with no seam down the middle of the back of the coat. If I cut it out the way they are instucting me too, I will have 4 pieces and a seam in the middle of the back. What am I doing wrong? This is a picture of the fabric layout from the pattern instruction sheet. http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/9182/mvc001s1au.jpg (http://imageshack.us) This is the coat picture I am attempting to make. http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/266/mvc002s3iz.jpg (http://imageshack.us) My dogs need clothes!
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User: Cant-sew-a-lick
Member since: 11-07-2005 Total posts: 29 |
From: toadusew
Date: 11-13-2005, 07:26 PM (2 of 18)
It looks like maybe one piece should be placed on the fold. If so, that should be on the pattern piece itself. Hope this helps a little. 
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User: toadusew
Member since: 01-08-2005 Total posts: 369 |
From: toadusew
Date: 11-13-2005, 07:27 PM (3 of 18)
| That should read "be printed on the pattern piece". |
User: toadusew
Member since: 01-08-2005 Total posts: 369 |
From: woodywoodpecker
Date: 11-13-2005, 07:28 PM (4 of 18)
| I think what I would do is lay the center line of pattern piece 2 on a fold and cut 2 pieces, or you could make a pattern of the whole back and cut 2 pieces. It doesn't make any sense to me either where they have the fold marked, and showing the upside and downside of the pattern. |
User: woodywoodpecker
Member since: 11-07-2003 Total posts: 242 |
From: dmoses
Date: 11-13-2005, 07:33 PM (5 of 18)
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When the pattern has the pattern piece depicted this way...placed on the fabric twice, but in 'reflective positions'...they want you to cut it as one big piece. You can cut the first half(except for that 'line of symmetry') and then flip the piece and continue cutting the other half. Sometimes when I get a piece like that, I trace it on a folded piece of paper and make a full pattern piece to use, just so I don't get confused at cutting time. Hope I haven't confused you even more! Take care,
Donna |
User: dmoses
Member since: 02-22-2002 Total posts: 964 
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From: toadusew
Date: 11-13-2005, 07:38 PM (6 of 18)
Am I getting a different picture than everybody else? I don't see a pic of the pattern layout, but a picture of the pattern front with cute doggy model. Hmmm.......am I doing something wrong or is it my computer or has my move across the country finally rendered me brainless?  LOL
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User: toadusew
Member since: 01-08-2005 Total posts: 369 |
From: dmoses
Date: 11-13-2005, 07:44 PM (7 of 18)
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Hi toadusew, Love the name, by the way!  There are two pics in the original post(that I can see)...one is the pattern front, and the other is part of the instruction sheet with the layout. It's not you...it's your computer! 
Take care,
Donna |
User: dmoses
Member since: 02-22-2002 Total posts: 964
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From: Cant-sew-a-lick
Date: 11-13-2005, 07:44 PM (8 of 18)
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Thank You Donna! I get it. Now, you see why I bought a Sewing for Dummies Pattern...... I have a roll of craft paper. I will make a whole piece and then cut it out. It will be good to have on hand for future coats. Great tip! My dogs need clothes!
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User: Cant-sew-a-lick
Member since: 11-07-2005 Total posts: 29 |
From: dmoses
Date: 11-13-2005, 07:48 PM (9 of 18)
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You're welcome, Can't-sew-a-lick! Love your username, too! Gosh you're all so creative with the usernames!
Take care,
Donna |
User: dmoses
Member since: 02-22-2002 Total posts: 964
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From: DorothyL
Date: 11-14-2005, 07:52 AM (10 of 18)
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You could cut two pieces both on the fold. Or the way Donna explained it. Dorothy |
User: DorothyL
Member since: 12-09-2002 Total posts: 3883 |
From: toadusew
Date: 11-14-2005, 09:18 AM (11 of 18)
Thanks, Donna! (Hubby chose my user name--he has bouts of creativity!  )I can still only see one picture and its of the dog on the front. I'm still puzzled about why I can't see the pic of the layout. My computer must have some kind of glitch--when I try to click the smilies, my screen goes all the way to top with the forum name. Think my computer is haunted? LOL |
User: toadusew
Member since: 01-08-2005 Total posts: 369 |
From: paroper
Date: 11-14-2005, 12:50 PM (12 of 18)
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Donna has the solution if you follow the printed directions. They expect you to cut one side then flip it, lay it against the first and cut the other. The odd little arrow in the center of the bottom half of the big piece is indicating center back cut on fold. I don't know why they don't tell you to fold your fabric to the middle and cut twice on the fold unless they don't think you'll have enough room to cut piece 2 twice (making 4 pieces). I guess it is just too hard to figure that out from a diagram. pam
Bernina 200e, Artista V5 Designer Plus, Explorations, Magic Box, Bernina 2000DE & 335 Bernette Serger, Bernina 1530 Sewing Machine, Bernina 1300 DC Overlock (with coverstitch) |
User: paroper
Member since: 02-03-2004 Total posts: 3775 |
From: LeapFrog Libby
Date: 11-14-2005, 01:12 PM (13 of 18)
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My take on this is this.. The pattern instructions did not explain the unique -ness of the "place this line on fold " arrow.. The only place you will ever see this arrow.. (long, with the points folded and pointed to edge of pattern piece) is on a pattern piece that is to be cut from a folded piece of fabric.. Now the diagram shows it opened out to cut from a single piece of fabric.. Granted, it does really show 2 being cut because there are two thicknesses shown in the diagram.. I think if that is in a beginner pattern , it was not explained very well.. Makes me wonder how long some novice would spend trying to find a pattern piece that really looked like that one on the diagram..
Sew With Love
Libby |
User: LeapFrog Libby
Member since: 05-01-2002 Total posts: 2022 
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From: Catalina
Date: 11-14-2005, 02:13 PM (14 of 18)
| I agree with Leap Frog Libby. |
User: Catalina
Member since: 01-06-2005 Total posts: 119 |
From: paroper
Date: 11-14-2005, 02:39 PM (15 of 18)
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This is not an uncommon way to show this type of lay out. They do usually show some shading to indicate that the pattern has been turned. I don't necessarily agree that it is right the way and I certainly agree that the pattern companies take a whale of a lot of things for granted concering their customers abilities. The best thing to do is for MANY to write letters of complaint to the pattern company or call them. It takes more than one squeak to get something changed. pam
Bernina 200e, Artista V5 Designer Plus, Explorations, Magic Box, Bernina 2000DE & 335 Bernette Serger, Bernina 1530 Sewing Machine, Bernina 1300 DC Overlock (with coverstitch) |
User: paroper
Member since: 02-03-2004 Total posts: 3775 |
From: dmoses
Date: 11-14-2005, 03:52 PM (16 of 18)
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This one has shading to indicate that the pattern is turned, although it is not so clear in the photo. I think that the main reason this one is done that way is because it is a beginner pattern, and this is probably the simplest layout. There is also a chance that a beginner may choose a napped fabric for this project, and this layout will accommodate that...I think!?!  When we have been using patterns for a while, it is easier for us to envision various pattern layouts and through experience, we become aware of the potential problems that may arise if we switch things around. Take care,
Donna |
User: dmoses
Member since: 02-22-2002 Total posts: 964
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From: Catalina
Date: 11-15-2005, 06:45 AM (17 of 18)
| Dmoses- After awhile you will seldom look at the layouts anymore- I seldom do, but at first it is good to check them out. |
User: Catalina
Member since: 01-06-2005 Total posts: 119 |
From: paroper
Date: 11-15-2005, 07:44 AM (18 of 18)
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After all these years, I check it out and I sometimes lay my first piece using the pattern quite often it is the piece on the fold. What I look for is pattern pieces that are laid more than once and how closely laid the pattern pieces appear to be. I'd rather check there and be sure that I don't miss and multiples and if it is laid close, I know that the fabric company used every bit of fabric it could (a rarity.) Generally I've found that if I lay the pattern with the fabric going one direction and I lay the large pieces first (little ones in the spaces), I can't really go wrong. Usually I end up with lots of extra fabric (someday I'll learn to quilt yet!).
pam
Bernina 200e, Artista V5 Designer Plus, Explorations, Magic Box, Bernina 2000DE & 335 Bernette Serger, Bernina 1530 Sewing Machine, Bernina 1300 DC Overlock (with coverstitch) |
User: paroper
Member since: 02-03-2004 Total posts: 3775 |
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