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From: bridesmom
Date: 11-17-2005, 08:09 AM (1 of 11)
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I know we discussed this before, but I am curious, do most of you attach your stabilizer with 505 or another spray adhesive. Do you do this all the time or some of the time, when do you or don't you. I made up a knit cotton pair of pj's and embroidered on them. I sprayed the tear away stabilizer with 505, then attached it to the fabric. The embroidery went fine (my first time) but when I tried to wash off the sticky residue from the 505 it wouldn't come off very well and now the inside of the top has lots of lint and stuff stuck to it, even though its been washed 3 times. What did I do wrong? I'm ready to embroider on some fleece now and I certainly don't want to have this happen again.
Laura
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User: bridesmom
Member since: 01-21-2004 Total posts: 2026 |
From: mommydionne
Date: 11-17-2005, 06:26 PM (2 of 11)
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I use 505 very sparingly, usually with a cutaway hooped and then attach my object to be embroidered. Perhaps try an dabbing the back with alcohol (test to make sure it won't trash your fabric or threads) to see if that will remove the adhesive.
Jeanette
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User: mommydionne
Member since: 01-08-2004 Total posts: 838 
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From: mamadus
Date: 11-18-2005, 12:28 AM (3 of 11)
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Laura.. sounds like you went a bit heavy on the 505.. I use 505 often... in fact I'm working on linen napkins right now... so far 4 sets of 8.. all of them done using 505... but as mommydionne said... the key word is sparingly... you really don't need a lot of 505 to do the job... keep us posted and congrats on your first project... MO life is too short, not to explore
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User: mamadus
Member since: 12-31-2004 Total posts: 492 
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From: paroper
Date: 11-18-2005, 07:30 AM (4 of 11)
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Well, at least you did spray the stabilizer. The first few times I used it, I sprayed my project...big mistake!!! I only use the 505 if I am doing hoopless embroidery. There is a new product by the same company called HR5. It is supposed to be basically the same but you are supposed to be able to reposition your hoop easier. It may wash out better, I don't know.
pam
Bernina 200e, Artista V5 Designer Plus, Explorations, Magic Box, Bernina 2000DE & 335 Bernette Serger, Bernina 1530 Sewing Machine, Bernina 1300 DC Overlock (with coverstitch) |
User: paroper
Member since: 02-03-2004 Total posts: 3775 |
From: Chrysantha
Date: 11-18-2005, 09:02 PM (5 of 11)
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I find Sulky KK2000 easier to use than 505...505 makes a mess and smells bad. KK doesn't.
Chrys
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User: Chrysantha
Member since: 09-06-2002 Total posts: 2414 
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From: oklahomanana
Date: 11-19-2005, 12:00 AM (6 of 11)
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Chrys, Where do you get the KK2000? Have not heard of this before but certainly sound like something I would change to! How is the price compared to 505 if you don;t mind me asking? My sister has to order the 505, can't get it around here anywhere? I only use 505 when I am doing hoopless items too. It is messy, but found this stuff called ( De-solve it) at Walmart that smells like oranges, and cleans the goope off of everything nicely. Found in the chemical isle, along the cleaners and deodorizers. One of the best gifts to give a child/grandchild is your listening ear.
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User: oklahomanana
Member since: 09-07-2004 Total posts: 406 
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From: bridesmom
Date: 11-19-2005, 01:19 AM (7 of 11)
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Now I have another question - hoopless embroidery??? How does the fabric stay taut if its not in the hoop? And if you are using a hoop do you need to adher the stabilizer? I get my 505 from Walmart for really cheap! Laura
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User: bridesmom
Member since: 01-21-2004 Total posts: 2026 |
From: oklahomanana
Date: 11-19-2005, 01:41 AM (8 of 11)
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Walmart has 505?????~ WOW. I did not know that! Anyone else seen it in Wmart? I work there and our store does not carry it. Maybe in the bigger stores they do, will have to go look. Certainly appreciate you letting me know that though!! Hoopless is (hooping your stabizer in your hoop) sandwiched between the 2 hoops okay, and then spray your stablizer with 505, then press your towel or whatever down ontop of the stablizer. Works like a charm! I love it for t shirts and towels! I learned from someone else towels are so thick they can stretch your hoop and break it, and t shirts don;t like to be stretched so this way it solves the problem. On a second note: I spray lightly too! A little of it goes a long ways. One of the best gifts to give a child/grandchild is your listening ear.
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User: oklahomanana
Member since: 09-07-2004 Total posts: 406
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From: paroper
Date: 11-19-2005, 09:13 AM (9 of 11)
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One other IMPORTANT thing: The spray is not enough to guarantee that your garment will stay attached to the hoop. It may still shift fom the weight of the garment or the texture of the fabric. However, to guarantee that the garment stays fully attached, either pin baste closely around the outside edge of the garment or machine or hand baste. The best way is to hand or machine baste (you'll still need to lightly pin in place as you baste, even the force of basting can cause the fabric to shift or become "twisted".
pam
Bernina 200e, Artista V5 Designer Plus, Explorations, Magic Box, Bernina 2000DE & 335 Bernette Serger, Bernina 1530 Sewing Machine, Bernina 1300 DC Overlock (with coverstitch) |
User: paroper
Member since: 02-03-2004 Total posts: 3775 |
From: bridesmom
Date: 11-19-2005, 08:12 PM (10 of 11)
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This makes sense to me. So, this would be a good way to do fleece then too right? Would I put stabilizer on top as well, so the embroidery doesn't sink into the fleece? Does hoopless work best on knits and thicker materials, then, and woven lighter fabrics are best hooped? Laura
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User: bridesmom
Member since: 01-21-2004 Total posts: 2026 |
From: Chrysantha
Date: 11-19-2005, 10:39 PM (11 of 11)
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You can get Sulky KK at your local quit store or JoAnn's...maybe Hancocks (I have no idea we don't have Hancocks here.) google for it...you might find it online. I prefer NOT to use sprays if I don't have to. I use sticky STABILIZER. All the companies make a version. I prefer OESD. You stick it TO YOUR HOOP ON THE BOTTOM, THEN you stick your garment/fabric to it. That way NOTHING is stretched out of line as you embroider. You can ALWAYS float more stabilizer underneath and a solvy (of some kind) on top. I've been using this method for over 3 yrs now and it hasn't failed me yet, my hoops are NOT sticky NOR are my needles. (my dealer's repair person says I have the cleanest machines of ANYONE he's seen in over 30 yrs and YES I DO embroider...on 3 machines all the time...t-shirts, cotton, rayon, nylon, fleece, silky poly, denim, silk (100%), brocades, etc...) I also keep a can of spray AIR to clean my machines all the time, plus I vaccum them out. I use quality needles (Schmetz, Organ, Janome) and the BEST thread money can buy, RA, Mettler, Madiera, Guttermann, YLI/Yenmet (OESD). (Sulky shreds in my machines so I leave it alone). Chrys
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User: Chrysantha
Member since: 09-06-2002 Total posts: 2414
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