Date: 12-01-2005, 08:00 PM (1 of 6)
Well, today I bopped into ye old sewing store to pick up a zipper. And then got looking at the new machines! Whoa, the Janome 11000 is incredible! So is the price ($8000+ )But the embroidery and stich quality are incredible and so is the big square hoop. Then I got distracted by the new Viking Designer SE WHOA!!! Same price but they are giving you a desktop computer with an externall CD drive if you buy the machine before xmas. But restraint prevailed and I walked out with just my zipper!
But I wonder how many home sewers are going to be able to purchase such a machine? If you run a business I could see writing it off for the tax man but for personal use that's pretty extravagent. Any thoughts?
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Date: 12-01-2005, 09:21 PM (2 of 6)
I know. You've gotta wonder how long before they price themselves out of business. There are women out there standing with the money in their hand I guess ready to do it again. At least, there are plenty purchasing that new Janome and the new Bernina 730.
There are people who bought new 440 and 430 Berninas at somewhere around 3-4000 last spring that are already trading up to the 630/640 in the 5000 range (I think that's pretty close to the price) and the new 730. Go figure. Bernina has offered us a generous option to just upgrade our 200 to the 730 machine for a thousand or less and people are still trading in their 200 at a loss to buy the new 730 (go figure). I paid right at 7000 plus over 700 in taxes for my 200. I, for one can't thow away a couple thousand for the priviledge of upgrading to a machine when I could upgrade my machine to the same one for less than 800.
Bernina 200e, Artista V5 Designer Plus, Explorations, Magic Box, Bernina 2000DE & 335 Bernette Serger, Bernina 1530 Sewing Machine, Bernina 1300 DC Overlock (with coverstitch)
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Date: 12-01-2005, 11:25 PM (3 of 6)
I guess I'm lucky....the women who own/work at my dealer/fabric shop say I'm spoiled....I donno...I know I'm over 50, no kids, husband has a good job...so we have 'hobbies'. He has his cameras/computers and I have..
the Janome 10000, 11000, 6500, 300E, and the Compulock. Until 3 yrs ago I made do with a 30 yr old Singer, that was turned into a doorstop by a repairman in MT. (and that was MY first machine...my grandmother bought it for me...she taught me how to sew)
So I sew for charity, myself, my husband. my friends, my sister (her dog), my ferrets, my in-laws...
So am I spoiled, lucky (that I'm now able to own 'things'), or do I just have to have hobbies where I can work with color and my hands ??? (because I can't be a cake decorator anymore).
I see people CRAMMING themselves into stores to buy XBoxes that cost $400 and up for their KIDS. The kids themselves SCREAMING because they didn't get what they want....
as I kid I didn't 'get'...we didn't 'have'...so spending thousands of dollars for a machine that brings pleasure, comfort, kindness, and money for a business owner(whos been in business for 30 yrs and makes friends with all her customers), isn't all that bad in MY eyes...( I don't see XBoxes doing anything for anyone except Bill Gates and his partners..and yes I DO KNOW he gives to charity. But he kinda has to, if he didn't he'd pay more out in taxes each year than the national debt.)
So whats extravagant to one, is a hobby to another, a 'must have' to another, business to another...thats what makes the U.S. and Canada so great....we have choices...(I didn't forget ya Jan....I've never been to the UK and I can't tell if ya have choices )
Kath (and her 10 cents) (again)
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Date: 12-28-2005, 08:21 PM (4 of 6)
I'm in the same boat as Chrysantha. This is my hobby it makes me happy so why not? Other people have college tutition I have TOL sewing/embroidery machines. I am really spoiled, I'm a housewife too.
This is my second TOL machine. I got a Pfaff 2170 for Christmas. I love it. I think if I buy another embroidery machine in the future it will be a small pro with a cap hoop. I think my dealer mentioned about a dozen of us who have bought sinc eshe took over in Sept of thsi year and this is only a city of about 30,000 so somebody is buying them. I doubt if too many are using these machines for buisness, they sew too slow to be able to really use like that. Industrial machines are made for that purpose.
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From: Tom Land
Date: 01-01-2006, 06:16 PM (5 of 6)
Paroper is so right. 35 years ago when we had our first machine at $1000 I remember us wondering when they were going to price themselves out of the market and here we are today at $8000 +. Thankfully today some of the comapanies are designing their machines to be fully upgradeable. Pfaff has been the leader in this and hopefully others will follow suit. People that purchased the 2140 4 or 5 years ago have had numerous free upgrades so that today they have the newest model (2170) at no additional cost. If a machine is made to last 20 + years it should'nt be outdated in 5 years.
Have fun or don't do it, Tom
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Date: 01-02-2006, 08:09 PM (6 of 6)
Unfortunately, technology is driving the world...including the sewing world. You buy a computer today and it is outdated tomorrow. In business, computers are only expected to last 3 years then they need to be upgraded/replaced. It seems that is beginning to be the norm for sewing machines too....
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