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From: LadySloPokes
Date: 01-28-2006, 08:49 AM (1 of 16)
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I'm still very inexperienced in doing machine embroidery, taking baby steps to get started. My youngest step-son wants me to embroider his college's logo on a windbreaker he has. It's a nylon-polyester type of fabric. I plan to use a cut-away stabilizer for the backing. Should I also use one of the topper stabilizers that's water soluable? I have one shot at this to get it right, so it's very important for me to understand what I need to do to make it work and look right! Many thanks in advance for any input, suggestions and instructions you may send my way!! Cookie 
Cookie
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From: paroper
Date: 01-28-2006, 09:04 AM (2 of 16)
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Cookie, you may not legally be able to do that logo. Most are trademarked or registered logos. Many colleges are making really good money prosecuting people who copy their designs. I'd do a little checking before I do it. My husband works for a school that will give permission for personal use, but you just might want to check rather than step into a place you don't want to go.
pam
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From: paroper
Date: 01-28-2006, 09:12 AM (3 of 16)
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As for the windbreaker, unless it has a nap (and I don't think it does), you wouldn't need a topper. It would just be in the way. Your biggest problem will be in the layers. Use 505 or similar spray to hoop the stabilizer and the lining because the lining can walk during the design.
pam
Bernina 200e, Artista V5 Designer Plus, Explorations, Magic Box, Bernina 2000DE & 335 Bernette Serger, Bernina 1530 Sewing Machine, Bernina 1300 DC Overlock (with coverstitch) |
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From: LadySloPokes
Date: 01-28-2006, 09:25 AM (4 of 16)
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Thank you so much Pam, that is exactly the info I was looking for. I'm not too sure if the windbreaker has a lining yet, kidder still needs to bring it to me. I'll be sure to have him check with his sports coach to be sure it's okay for us to this for our own personal use. He's just transferred to this college and can't afford their ridiculously high prices for logo wear (!) but wants something to wear to his bowling and golf matches when he starts competing.
Cookie
LadySlo...yes am I, but hey, I'm gettin' there! Are you sure it's supposed to look like this?! Proud owner of Singer Quantum Decor 7322 & Singer Quantum Futura CE 200.. "A balanced diet is having chocolate in both hands!" |
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Member since: 08-15-2005 Total posts: 198
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From: scsu
Date: 03-28-2006, 08:40 AM (5 of 16)
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Ladyslopokes you will be fine using the logo for your personal use, you just wouldn't be able to sell a product with the college logo on it. Let me know how the windjacket works, it's funny because I am doing the same. |
User: scsu
Member since: 03-10-2006 Total posts: 13 |
From: Ria
Date: 03-28-2006, 10:42 AM (6 of 16)
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I'm glad I saw this thread...I am also doing a windbreaker for myself for the first time....I thought I would dress it up a bit for spring...my husband wants me to do a VFW logo on his jacket and I wasnt sure if I would be able to do it but maybe if it is for personal use and not to be sold it would be ok...I have been holding back on doing it...dont want to step on any toes...LOL...Ria
Ria
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From: Chrysantha
Date: 03-28-2006, 09:08 PM (7 of 16)
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actually.. www.embroideryonline.com www.embroidery.com www.amazingdesigns.com all sell LOGO's for various schools, jobs, etc... Chrys
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User: Chrysantha
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From: LadySloPokes
Date: 03-28-2006, 10:11 PM (8 of 16)
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As for the windbreaker, unless it has a nap (and I don't think it does), you wouldn't need a topper. It would just be in the way. Your biggest problem will be in the layers. Use 505 or similar spray to hoop the stabilizer and the lining because the lining can walk during the design. Please tell me who makes this spray and where I might be able to find it. I have been looking all over town and the internet with no success!  I see it being referred to in many threads here....I'd love to be able to get some.Many thanks in advance! Cookie Cookie
LadySlo...yes am I, but hey, I'm gettin' there! Are you sure it's supposed to look like this?! Proud owner of Singer Quantum Decor 7322 & Singer Quantum Futura CE 200.. "A balanced diet is having chocolate in both hands!" |
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From: paroper
Date: 03-28-2006, 10:22 PM (9 of 16)
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OESD sells it and I think it is their product. Here are a couple of links. I'm sure that it is available many places. It sounds expensive but you spray a little on the stabilizer so it lasts a long time. My dealer calls it "spritzing". If you spray it too heavy it doesn't wash out as well. http://www.clotilde.com/cl/product_group.asp?listtype=search&searchterm=505&go.x=3&go.y=9&pg=2&dept_name=Search+Result%3A+505&g_id=412728 http://www.embroideryonline.com/products/Accessories.aspx?CategoryID=177 pam
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From: Chrysantha
Date: 03-28-2006, 11:25 PM (10 of 16)
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Sulky KK2000 is a spray too...but doesn't smell as bad and doesn't make as much of a mess on your hoops. Can be found at Joann's, Wally World, anywhere Sulky is sold.
Chrys
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User: Chrysantha
Member since: 09-06-2002 Total posts: 2414
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From: Ria
Date: 03-29-2006, 08:59 PM (11 of 16)
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Well I did two new windbreakers of mine today...they came out beautiful... Here is what I did...and I do NOT suggest you do it my way...its just me and how I do things different but if you ruined a jacket I would feel so bad...ok...I pressed the wrinkles out....hooped it with a med weight cut away....I made sure the flannel lining was smooth in the hoop with the top nylon layer...then just to be sure..I smoothed out the top nylon layer and at the inside edges of the hoop I straight pinned to keep it smooth....so it wouldnt shift in the hoop while embroidering....I did not use any spray....I just dont like them....I did both sides of each jacket.....they turned out great....the lime one I did a delicate flower spray in a deeper lime leaf and lavendar flowers...and on the lavendar jacket I did the lime spray of leaves and the dark purple flowers...I am really happy with how they turned out..I think maybe I was successfull because the pattern was not heavy...but a large delicate spray of flowers...if it was a heavy logo it would most likely have been a different story...ok...thats it...just thought I would share with you all....  RiaCookie...I will be very interested in hearing how you did yours because I may have to do one in the future with a heavier logo and I am not real sure how I would do that one....thanks...Ria
Ria
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From: scsu
Date: 03-30-2006, 08:20 AM (12 of 16)
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Ria- Can you show us a picture of your work?
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User: scsu
Member since: 03-10-2006 Total posts: 13 |
From: Ria
Date: 03-30-2006, 09:13 AM (13 of 16)
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I would LOVE to...as I mentioned before hubby broke our camera...it is a good one and I was ready to go out and buy a new one but he said it would be worth it to have this one fixed....so fairly soon I hope to be able to show you....where does the picture upload to...right here on the thread? Oh never mind...I see the attachement button below..... Ria I also finished a quilt I would love to show.....would I upload that to the quilt thread instead of here...that one I already have a picture of....Baking bread today so got to run..... ria 
Ria
"Alas for those who never sing, but die with all their music in them" (Oliver Wendell Holmes) Brother 6500.....Brother 8060......PED Basic... Embird...... |
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From: swartzrn
Date: 03-30-2006, 11:00 AM (14 of 16)
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When you said something about items w/college logos, I remembered I have seen numerous items on ebay (like handbags, etc) with college logos embroidered on them for sale..is that copyright infringement as well?
Julie
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User: swartzrn
Member since: 02-17-2006 Total posts: 436 
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From: paroper
Date: 03-30-2006, 11:23 AM (15 of 16)
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Many things on E-Bay are not as they seem and many things that are sold on E-Bay should not be there. I'm not going to tell you that everything is illegal but many of them are. It depends on if they are selling with permission from the team/school and what kind of permission they have to make/sell them, where they got them, it the logo is trademarked (most are) or licensed. I know that a lot of people say that if they are doing it for themselves, it is fine, but I don't want to try to explain where I got something and why I thought it might or might not be legal. It is my personal opinion that it is better to err on the safe side. A lot of people are being hounded by the embroidery collition and they are paying. If you have someone going to a school and want to do an embroidery project for your relative, it doesn't hurt to dash off a letter and get permission. You'll sleep better and have something to back you up if someone asks. If you intend to sell it they expect and have rights to receive royalties. Often you have to pay up front for that priviledge. Don't think that just because you live in the back hills some place that no one will notice. I've heard of people being hauled into court that you would never believe would come in contact with the public enough to be noticed. I don't know if there is a finder's fee on those things or not but it sure makes you wonder. pam
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From: LadySloPokes
Date: 03-31-2006, 01:25 PM (16 of 16)
Thank you Pam & Chrys for the info on the sprays. That gives me more options and new starting points. The logo is one that we were able to download and digitize, and since it's only going to be used for my step-son's personal stuff, I don't think there's going to be a problem with it. However, if he doesn't get it to me by Easter, he's gonna be outta luck, Big Time!! 
Cookie
LadySlo...yes am I, but hey, I'm gettin' there! Are you sure it's supposed to look like this?! Proud owner of Singer Quantum Decor 7322 & Singer Quantum Futura CE 200.. "A balanced diet is having chocolate in both hands!" |
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Member since: 08-15-2005 Total posts: 198
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