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From: Dustbunny01
Date: 03-13-2006, 07:59 PM (1 of 14)
within the last 9 month, on my big toe ( right) I have had the nail removed twice. last time being on the 28th of Feb.
I was told by the first Dr, who removed the nail that I had a fungal, and is why it turned under on the sides, and no amount of digging out the sides would fix it.
I have always had ingrown nails on the big toes, but have always been able to cut it out myself, but not anymore.. on top of all the scar tissue on the sides, and the turn is just not on the outer edge, it turned from the cuttial all the way down the side.. and turn into the middle of the nail.. and went down.

will the first Dr I went too took out the nail, and oh man the pain he gave me, talk about bleeding like mad.. it did for an hour... did try to kill out the nail bed, but it diden't work and came back.. Told me to take Lamisil, but I was hoping it would not grow back and I would not need the meds.
will it grew back!!

This time on the 28th I went to another Dr.. and had it taken off the 2nd time.. I had to gear myself up for the pain of the removal, and the pain that night, the throbbing pain...
I was shocked, first No pain when it was removed, and only a few drops of blood. Wow.. no pain at night... no throbbing pain, sore yes.. but only for a week, bleed a bit later that day and a few days after and I was put on Lamisil

but I am having problems taking the meds.. I have had nothing but big headaches since I started on the meds, and I am so tired now taking 2 naps in the day. ( but I dont' sleep well at night)

I have not talked to the Dr about this.. and will not.. because I only thing about the pain my toe if it grows back under.. ( it got so bad this time that even sleeping the toe would wake me up)

and that Lamisil is not cheap.. 368.63 for 30 and I have to take them for 3 months.. ( glad we have insurance and only had to pay 20.00)

has anyone else taking the lamisil and have headaches and being tired?
User: Dustbunny01
Member since: 11-11-2005
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From: Chrysantha
Date: 03-13-2006, 09:32 PM (2 of 14)
I cannot take ANY antifungals...they make me ill. (vomiting and all....)
If they're making you ill, tell the Dr and get him to give you something else.
They have DIFFERENT antifungals they can use. Lamisil is just the newest.
(thats why it costs so much.)
User: Chrysantha
Member since: 09-06-2002
Total posts: 2414
From: MotherInLaw
Date: 03-14-2006, 12:17 AM (3 of 14)
Also they have on some of those meds that they affect the liver and can cause infection in some people. Let your Doc know immediately what problems you are having it could cause other problems that are worse then your toe problems. Like internal problems in your organs.
I'm regressing back into my youth, I just have to figure out how I'm going to convience my body to come along with me.
User: MotherInLaw
Member since: 06-25-2005
Total posts: 1118
From: Sancin
Date: 03-14-2006, 03:29 AM (4 of 14)
Cost of medicine seems to be a concern, Dustbunny, as well as how you are feeling. You may ask your pharmacist if they will take the medications back and apply the cost to new ones the Dr. may order. I have had it work sometimes and sometimes not. Worth a try.
*~*~*~* Nancy*~*~*~* " I try to take one day at a time - but sometimes several days attack me at once."
User: Sancin
Member since: 02-13-2005
Total posts: 895
From: Chrysantha
Date: 03-14-2006, 10:15 PM (5 of 14)
Here in the states Nancy...they won't let you do that. If you get meds and can't take them, you have to throw them out. They won't take them back after they leave the pharmacy. (due to people using meds as weapons...people HAVE put poison in meds on store shelves and people have died.)
User: Chrysantha
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From: Sancin
Date: 03-15-2006, 03:15 AM (6 of 14)
Chrys - They don't reuse the drugs here either for the same reason - nor will they refill my bottles when I return them for the same reason. No one ever heard of washing bottles? I worked in a drug store to put myself through university and I sure washed bottles and people did return their bottles to be refilled - back in the dark ages.
Actually I was thinking the drug store may do it as a professional courtesy for a customer whose Dr. made a mistake - they are responsible for destroying drugs that are returned as unused. I had one eye glass lens replaced for free when an opthomologist made an error and a later optometrist's optician didn't charge me for the new lens.

There is a horrible mark up on meds so they really don't lose a lot of money, but do gain a lot of good public relations. It never hurts to ask. Some times businesses have to be reminded that courtesy goes a long way. You don't have to beligerant, just ask.

Dustbunny - have you considered having your toe nail cared for by a podiatrist (specialist in feet)? They care for toes and feet all the time and tend to know more than medical Dr.'s about feet - as I can attest after a number of toe surgeries. You do need to go back to your regular doctor or the one that ordered the medication and discuss the problem. You shouldn't be sleeping that much and you should be given something for pain. You could risk getting a serious infection in the bones of your toes if the fungal infection goes untreated or becomes infected with bacteria - and you don't want that.
*~*~*~* Nancy*~*~*~* " I try to take one day at a time - but sometimes several days attack me at once."
User: Sancin
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From: Dustbunny01
Date: 03-15-2006, 04:07 AM (7 of 14)
OH I have NO pain with the toe, since it was done on the 28th, but when I went to the other Dr, ( last year) to have the same toe nail removed, I had a week of pain, One night of throbbing pain and into the next day. Needless to say I did not go back to him this time around.

The only part that was sore this time around was one place where they put the numbing med at (shots), on the outside,base of the toe, but that has now gone away. the inner side of the base fo the toe did not become sore.
no infection, and I even now see the new nail growning back.

I am having a lot of big headaches and sleeping is part of the side affects

I just don't have the time to try another med, I will be lucky if I get to have the 3 months with this med, as Dh plant is closing,

I had a Eye Dr apt today, A drive of 30 minutes, and I almost ran off the road, because I just about fell asleep, now that scared me, I have never done that before. I did not tell my husband about it yet, but I plan on it tomorrow
Eye Dr said no changes in my eyes still on the Glaucoma watch ( I don't have Glaucoma, but the eye tests have me in the category with very high readings I have been on the "glaucoma watch" for 6 years now.
This eye Dr that I have been seeing for the past 5 years was a 2nd opinion because the First Eye Dr, told me I did have Glaucoma and wanted me on meds.
User: Dustbunny01
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Total posts: 159
From: sewingrandma
Date: 03-18-2006, 06:39 PM (8 of 14)
Years ago if a nail kept giving you problems the doctor can kill the nail growth plate and you'll never have a problem with it again. The toe is more tender if it gets stubbed or stepped on though. There is another drug, not sure of spelling, call sporanox. It too needs to be taken for 3 months, is very expensive and can affect the liver. DH took it for fungal infections and it didn't do much good. He's been using Vicks vapo rub daily and that seems to keep it under control. His nails aren't so thick/yellow. BTW he removes his own nails with a pair of vice grips! What's that saying "no brain no pain"? I keep telling him he is going to get a terrible infection. So far he hasn't.

Did you know that the machine that they test for glaucoma (not the air puff one) are calibrated for "normal" cornea thickness? At least this is what this doc explained to me. Last time I was tested for glaucoma by this new doc the reading was high so he checked the thickness of my cornea and did the calibration and I don't have glaucoma. The gizmo they use to check the thickness is really strange, they rub a rod across your eye (it's numbed) so you see a halo. Doesn't hurt just strange sights.
User: sewingrandma
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From: SummersEchos
Date: 03-18-2006, 08:17 PM (9 of 14)
That is what I was going to say. Vicks Vapor Rub applied at night, bandage up, cleaned in the morning. Removes the fungus. May take 3 or 4 months for the nail to completley grow out but it has been known to work.

User: SummersEchos
Member since: 09-29-2004
Total posts: 884
From: MariLynntex
Date: 03-19-2006, 08:23 PM (10 of 14)
I am 79 next month. Two years ago I had both my big toenails worked on as they were thickening and were extremely sore. I could barely walk and that is a real problem for me, as I was in a terrible car accident several years ago and one ankle was broken and the other just smashed. It walk with a cane, at best! They were curving into my toe as they grew. I went to a podiatrist--an MD who was a foot specialist---and he put some deadening medicine on the sides of the nails and said it also killed the roots of the nails. The next week when I went back he cut out the sides of the nails. I never had a moment of pain, I never took any other medication. The 3rd time I went in he said it was amazing how fast I recovered and sent me home after a little more trimming. I have never had a minute's pain. My nail still grow a bit in length but not at all on the sides and I just use the nail clippers on them about once every other month or so. MariLynntex
User: MariLynntex
Member since: 01-05-2006
Total posts: 107
From: stitchmaniac
Date: 06-04-2006, 03:39 PM (11 of 14)
I had that darn fungus after I wore a pair of gortex lined shoes. My feet swelled while hiking and the toe rubbed. The shoes had gotten wet, I guess they shrunk and I did not realize it when I wore them. Well, after going around with the foot doctor, I bought some liquid Oil Of Oregano. I put it on my toe every morning and night. It is a VERY powerful, natural disinfectant. I take it in capsule form for my stomach. The Georgetown research says it will kill a strep infection, H-pylori and a host of other stuff. I was on drugs for 2 years for my stomach and accidentally found out about this stuff. It was like a miracle. This is in any health food store, Walgreens, Walmart or on line. I swear by it. My nail started clearing up in a couple of weeks, but I also take the capsules. They are about the size of a small vitamin E. DO Not take the liquid by is HOT and tastes horrible...yes, I did it. YUCK. Oil of Oregano is from the Mediterranean, not the stuff you cook with. The Greeks have used it for 2000 years. I haven't had a problem with my toe in 18 months. Oh, you will smell like an Italian sub for a while after you put it on...turns my hubby
User: stitchmaniac
Member since: 11-05-2002
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From: JoanieB
Date: 06-05-2006, 12:28 AM (12 of 14)

I had a toenail removed by my Orthopedic surgeon a couple of years ago, just the nail and not the nail matrix (bed) and he put me on Lamisil for 3 months. At the 6-week interval I had to have blood work to make sure it was not affecting my liver. On top of the total cost of the meds for 3 months being over $900 dollars, :cry: the fungis came back as the nail grew back in. :sad: If I have it removed again I will have it removed permanently so it will not grow back. I haven't had that done yet as it will have to be scheduled in a same day surgery facility.

User: JoanieB
Member since: 01-28-2005
Total posts: 68
From: Ole' Girl
Date: 06-23-2006, 06:22 PM (13 of 14)
I haven't taken it, but my sister-in-law did for the fungus under her fingernails. She had good luck and it went away. She did have to have blood tests during that time, and she was very reluctant to take the lamisil, but she is glad she did.

Shirley C.
User: Ole' Girl
Member since: 03-13-2005
Total posts: 33
From: Dustbunny01
Date: 08-10-2006, 08:09 PM (14 of 14)
My nail is just about 1/2 now... and I am starting too feel the pain again :mad:

It is growing right back where I asked him if it would,,,, I have this deep line that looks like an upside down V.. I asked him if the new nail would follow that, he told me NO.. HA

I had the matrix removed the first time around... took all the meds and they are now gone (Never did have a blood test before or after taking)\

I think I just took meds that I dident' need, I have to wonder if I even had that fung thing..

I have head that the food Dr can stich up someting to help your nail grow correcty...
I am not looking forward to more shots in my toe.. they are a little painful

This time ( I will give it a few more months) but I am goign to see a foot Dr this time around
User: Dustbunny01
Member since: 11-11-2005
Total posts: 159
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