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From: Dianne Walker
Date: 04-10-2006, 04:54 PM (1 of 10)
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Hi there Has anyone else encountered the probelm I am having with my Janome10001. If I use Janome pre-wound bobbins my embroidery is fine but if I wind bobbins myself on the machine the embroidery look dreadful. All the white bobbin thread seems to show on the top as though the tension is all wrong. The bobins appear to wind fine and they are fine for ordinary sewing but useless for embroidery. Buying pre-wound is very expensive but seems to be the only solution at the moment. I would be grateful to hear from anyone who has had a similar problem and found a solution. Thanks Dianne Dianne
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User: Dianne Walker
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From: Chrysantha
Date: 04-10-2006, 09:34 PM (2 of 10)
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Have you made sure your bobbin thread is in the tension hooks on the left ? Do you HOLD the thread (inside the hole on the side) while it starts and then for a few seconds AFTER, to make sure the thread is started properly ??? Do you cut the end CLOSE to the bobbin and make sure theres NO thread sticking out of the hole ??? Do you use thread the machine LIKES ??? (I own a 10000 and it likes YLI bobbin thread....) I also make sure I HOLD the thread tight in my fingers while it's winding. (a holdover from when I was a kid and my mothers machine wouldn't wind bobbins well.) I DO NOT move the thread while it's winding, just put enough tension on it to make sure it's not loose on the bobbin.
Chrys
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User: Chrysantha
Member since: 09-06-2002 Total posts: 2414 
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From: Dustbunny01
Date: 04-10-2006, 11:04 PM (3 of 10)
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when winding, try a medum wind instead of fast.. I dont' have your sewing machine but a 4800, and have the same problem with winding.. DB
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User: Dustbunny01
Member since: 11-11-2005 Total posts: 159 
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From: paroper
Date: 04-11-2006, 02:46 AM (4 of 10)
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Are you using bobbin thread? That might be your problem. I think it is normally 60 wt?
pam
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User: paroper
Member since: 02-03-2004 Total posts: 3775 |
From: Dianne Walker
Date: 04-11-2006, 09:34 AM (5 of 10)
Thanks for all your replies. Yes I am using bobbin thread -the one they sell at the shop where the machine was bought. I do hold the thread as it starts to wind and then cut it off short to the hole. I am sure it is threaded correctly and it seems to wind fine and stops when it gets full and looks perfect. I really don't understand it. I have not tried reducing the speed of winding though so I will give that a go. I always thought that the bobbin tension was controlled as it feeds in making the winding tension less important. I have tried winding bobbins on my old Janome machine which isn't an embroidery machine and the same thing happens. Thanks anyway - I will persevere !!!!!! 
Dianne
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User: Dianne Walker
Member since: 01-05-2005 Total posts: 59 |
From: paroper
Date: 04-11-2006, 10:31 AM (6 of 10)
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Sorry about all the questions. It is a matter of elimination. Ok, so we know you are using basically the proper procedures so far. When you thread your bobbin do you wind the thread backwards around the tension guide on your machine? It should go to the little "stub", you should wrap it from the front and then go to the back, crossing the thread as you go to the bobbin to wind it. The bobbin should wind up and down evenly, not more at one side than the other. This sets how tight your bobbin winds. On most machines, the speed of winding the bobbin is not a problem. When you put the bobbin in the case, make sure that it is feeding from the proper direction. Although it is doubtful this is a problem since you haven't had a problem with the NEBS, it may be that there is something about the NEBS (mainly that they are wound SO compactly) that may make up for the difference, so go ahead and check the manual to make sure that is good. Once you have the bobbin in place, you should feed the thread under the tension disk on the bobbin (on most machines this is an added flat piece of metal that is on the bobbin case). You might gently lift that flap with the tip of a needle, I just lightly run the point of a needle under there to open and remove extra thread when it is there, and make sure there isn't a piece of thread lodged under that causing a loss of tension. Since the NEBS are wound so tight, they almost have a tension of their own. You might just need to adjust your tensions on your machine. Because there is such a difference in tensions when doing embroidery and sewing, my machine comes with two different bobbin cases. One of the cases even has an extra place to put the thread when doing embroidery. That nearly doubles the tension on the bobbin over the sewing bobbin. pam
Bernina 200e, Artista V5 Designer Plus, Explorations, Magic Box, Bernina 2000DE & 335 Bernette Serger, Bernina 1530 Sewing Machine, Bernina 1300 DC Overlock (with coverstitch) |
User: paroper
Member since: 02-03-2004 Total posts: 3775 |
From: Aimee S
Date: 04-11-2006, 05:22 PM (7 of 10)
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bobbin thread that you buy is not the same as the pre wound bobbin. Janome Pre wound are not the same as NEBS they are a finer thread. THey are made by RA. Yes it is a 60 wt but it is a tight thread. There is lint like on bobbin thread that you purchase by the spool. If you are going to wind your own bobbin it is best to use 60 wt embroidery thread. Maderia makes some great thread. It is tightly made thread and it is not put together like the bobbin thread that is on the spool. The more you disaprove, the more fun I am having!
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User: Aimee S
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From: Dianne Walker
Date: 04-19-2006, 03:22 PM (8 of 10)
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Thanks you two It does get complicated doesn't it? I am fairly confident that I am putting the bobbin in the case OK but I must admit that sometimes when winding the bobbin it is not always completely even so that may be the problem. I will have another go and double check that I am setting it up correctly as you have explained Pam. I have also been told at the shop to check for any bits of caught thread so will also check for that. The bobbin thread I have always used is the one they sell me at the shop which says on it Bobbin Thread Poyester 100% 200dtex #90 (2cord) J-208 300m Made in Japan, which doesn't all mean a lot to me. Anyway I do appreciate all you helpful suggestions and will let you know how I get on. I am actually going away in the morning until next Monday so will not have time before then but I will post a reply as soon as I have got something to report. many thanks Di Dianne
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User: Dianne Walker
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From: plrlegal
Date: 04-19-2006, 06:19 PM (9 of 10)
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I can completely fill my bobbins for my sewing machine but my embroidery machine does not fill the bobbin all the way. It only fills to about an eighth of an inch from the edge of the bobbin and stops. I filled a bobbin completely full on one of my other machines and tried to use it in my embroidery machine and all it did was jam it up. So, if you're filling the bobbins completely full, that may be the problem and you may need to adjust the bobbin stop on the top of your machine to prevent that. Patsy Patsy
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User: plrlegal
Member since: 05-19-2001 Total posts: 318 |
From: Dianne Walker
Date: 04-25-2006, 07:59 AM (10 of 10)
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I'll give all the ideas a whirl and let you know if there is any improvement. I would like to thank you all very much for your interest and help. This is a brilliant place to get answers - much better than ringing the shop where the machine was bought. Thanks a million one and all. Di Dianne
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User: Dianne Walker
Member since: 01-05-2005 Total posts: 59 |
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