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From: bethm95
Date: 05-30-2006, 12:31 PM (1 of 46)
I searched for a pattern for the "back in style" gaucho pants and all I could find was patterns that have zippers. I don't like putting in zippers unless I have to, because I can't sew straight!!! So, I went on ebay and found an elastic waste culotte pattern which should be arriving any day now. The only difference I can see in culottes and gauchos, is that the gauchos I've seen in the store are made from stretchy material and don't have a piece of elastic in the wasteband, it's just all stretchy. Can anyone tell me how to update this culottes pattern I will be getting soon to looking more in style for today?
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From: esrun3
Date: 05-30-2006, 04:42 PM (2 of 46)
Sorry, Beth, I don't have an answer to your question but I wanted to welcome you to the boards! I know someone will be along soon with information for you! Please share when you have finished your gauchos.
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From: Bama
Date: 05-30-2006, 05:26 PM (3 of 46)
What year was the pattern made? I have an old culottes pattern I've thought about using again, but decided I needed to shorten the waist length to be more like today's styles.

I remember wearing denim gauchos in the 7th grade, with zip-up boots. :dave: Who would have thought my daughter would be wearing gauchos around the same age? :wink:
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From: Amyred
Date: 05-30-2006, 06:38 PM (4 of 46)
EEEEWWW. . .I wish someone hadn't brought those ugly things back. Can't we leave the 70's dead and buried??? Even I won't be making them. . .

Amy
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From: kmccrea
Date: 05-30-2006, 08:29 PM (5 of 46)
Since I don't know what your pattern looks like, the only thing I can tell you is how to turn a zippered garment into a pull-on.
This depends on your accurate waist and hip measurements. On the pattern extend the waist line to your fullest hip measurement (otherwise you won't be able to pull the pants on). Let's say there is a 12" difference between the waist measurement and the hip measurement. Divide the 12 inches by the number of pattern pieces and again by 2. Most shorts and pants have 4 pieces. So, 12/4=3 and 3/2=1.5. Now you need to add 1.5 inches to each side of your pattern pieces. You can use pattern tracing paper to add the extra width. Blend the new seamline to the old one to ensure the garment's drape and grain.
Eliminate the closure facings and overlaps and draw in a straight seamline down to the beginning of the crotch seam. Make sure it blends smoothly with the original crotch seam.
Cut a waistband long enough to stretch over the widest part of your hips plus the seam allowance. Cut your elastic to a comfortable waist measurement.
Don't forget to add the seam allowances and you're ready to make your new gauchos!
I hope this helps,
Kate
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From: lrmart
Date: 05-30-2006, 10:53 PM (6 of 46)
EEEEEWWWW, I made a pair of them in 9th grade sewing class in the late 70's, they were my final exam grade. I was up late the night before they were due, struggled to get the zipper done right. Finally got it in and then sewed the front and back together to only find out I sewed the back half to the front inside out. :mad: After my mom stopped laughing at me she sent me to bed ripped it apart and sewed it right. Course she got it done perfect, but then she's the master at sewing. :up:

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From: sewmuchfun
Date: 05-31-2006, 06:08 AM (7 of 46)
Culottes are shorts Gaucho's are mid calf.. That's the difference and Elephant pants go to the floor..

Hope this helps

Marilyn
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From: bethm95
Date: 05-31-2006, 07:35 AM (8 of 46)
I haven't gotten the pattern yet, it will be arriving in the mail any day now, probably today I'm thinking. So, I'll let ya'll know when it was made.Also, I'm not an expert sewer so any advice ya'll have given me or will give me is appreciated, just might need to be simplified!! I learned to sew about 3 years ago, and I have many alot of garments, but I haven't sewn much in the past 8-9 months. I did make a few of those fleece boa scarves in the wintertime, but that's only one seam. I'd like to get back to sewing and thought making some gauchos would be something quick and easy. I'd just like to make this pattern I'm getting look fashionable and not like it's stuck in the 80's!!
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From: paroper
Date: 05-31-2006, 08:50 AM (9 of 46)
What you call elephant pants we called Palazzos after the designer who made them. I LOVED those things!
pam

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From: stephi
Date: 05-31-2006, 09:11 AM (10 of 46)
Palazzos!! I love my pair of them, so comfy!!

I had the same thought that cooloutes are more like shorts right?? Gouchos are more like a split riding skirt only shorter. When you stand with your legs together they loook like a skirt almost and cooloutes just look like shorts all the time. I am the queen of cheating though and think that you should be able to extend the waist up by putting the shorts over the gouchos and lining them up at the critch then using the legs on gouchos and the waist on the shorts. Hehehe I have done this with a pair of kids pants because my niece cant zipper very well, she had a stroke and her right side doesnt work, so she needs slide on pants.

Hope this helps???
Stephi

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From: paroper
Date: 05-31-2006, 09:24 AM (11 of 46)
Gauchos are actually South America's cowboy. The design itself is actually taken from an article of their normal attire.
pam

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From: bridesmom
Date: 05-31-2006, 10:33 AM (12 of 46)
Isn't it wierd how fashion keeps coming back! I remember gauchos and elephant pants when I was in Grade 8 and 9. And I made a dress last summer which could have come from the 60's. I'm ok with this as long as fortrel doesn't come back!
Laura
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From: Orc40k
Date: 05-31-2006, 11:16 AM (13 of 46)
1. OMG Elephant Pants! I had a pair of hip hugger elephant jeans in college. I was wearing them the first time I got drunk (on 3.2% beer, so that dates me pretty well). My roomies walked me home in the rain and all I rememeber is the WEIGHT of those pants after being dragged through every puddle on High Street!

2. See my new thread on M.C. Hammer pants. :bg:
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From: paroper
Date: 05-31-2006, 11:20 AM (14 of 46)
If you want to talk about fashions coming back, the books are full of them!

Have you seen these? I bought the first one yesterday!

http://store.sewingtoday.com/cgi-bin/butterick/shop.cgi?s.item.B4790=x&TI=10001&page=1

http://store.sewingtoday.com/cgi-bin/voguepatterns/shop.cgi?s.item.V8196=x&TI=20011&page=1

http://store.sewingtoday.com/cgi-bin/voguepatterns/shop.cgi?s.item.V2785=x&TI=20009&page=6

Vogue has a vintage collection and it is selling very well!
pam

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From: LoveSewin
Date: 05-31-2006, 02:15 PM (15 of 46)
I am excited about the return of guachos! I loved them in the 70's (when I was about 9), and love them again! Who would've thought :dave:
Kim
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From: nmdispatchlady
Date: 05-31-2006, 06:29 PM (16 of 46)
:love: :dave: The sad or good thing, I haven't decided yet, is that I have a lot of these old patterns still in my collection from the first time they were out... LOL

For anyone that is looking for good inexpensive patterns check out e bay. You can buy never cut patterns still in their envelopes for under 5.00 each. Even with the shipping and handling they are still cheaper than the new ones today...

Quick trick for putting in a zipper, baste the seam, either by machine or hand. Press it open, place the zipper right side up on the wrong side of the garment. Pin it in place, then take regular celophane tape. place it on the outside of the garment where you want your stiching to go. Sew right down the edge of the tape. When you finish just lift the tape. even if you sew thru it it will still come right off. The other "cheater" is to use Thread the same color as your fabric, it won't show the mistakes as much.

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From: Sancin
Date: 05-31-2006, 07:07 PM (17 of 46)
Brides mom THANK YOU for using this term. I agree with awfullness, but a lot of old ladies really like it as it never needed ironing and never wore out. I make bathing suits for exercise classes and the hot tub - it is virtually indestructable!! It does drip a bit when getting out of the water, but what the heck, I can stand still for a moment. But I have a terrible time finding it and last time opt for some polyester, which unfortunatel, snags. :dave:

I wonder what happened to all the clothes made out of this indestructable fabric?
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From: lrmart
Date: 05-31-2006, 10:32 PM (18 of 46)
[QUOTE=paroper]If you want to talk about fashions coming back, the books are full of them!

Have you seen these? I bought the first one yesterday!

http://store.sewingtoday.com/cgi-bin/butterick/shop.cgi?s.item.B4790=x&TI=10001&page=1

[QUOTE]

Humm now I do like that dress, wonder if you need to have that small of a Waist :shock:
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From: paroper
Date: 05-31-2006, 10:39 PM (19 of 46)
Actually that "Y" shape with the full skirt and the right material/color could hide a multitude of sins and be very flattering, not to even mention comfortable! It should lead the eye upward minimizing the hips and emphasizing the shoulders and height.

I didn't buy it for myself but I did buy it for my dd.
pam

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From: stephi
Date: 06-01-2006, 09:14 AM (20 of 46)
Pam I love that pattern. Very flattering for us larger sin area women, LOL. I have a really pretty white with pink blue and purple plaid on it that would be perfect. I will have to look into adding it to my collection :up:
Stephi

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From: bluebirdie
Date: 06-01-2006, 02:39 PM (21 of 46)
What a coincidence! I happened to swing by Hancock early this morning and got that pattern. I was partly sold by the cover saying "Retro" and "FAST & EASY". Their Butterick is on sale for 99 cent. Needless to say, I also got a few things I don't need while I was there... The house is gonna explode...
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From: cvnativeinpa
Date: 06-01-2006, 03:12 PM (22 of 46)
[QUOTE=sewmuchfun]Culottes are shorts Gaucho's are mid calf.. That's the difference and Elephant pants go to the floor..

Omigosh! :shock: Elephant Pants! Do I remember those! I made a jumpsuit with Elephant pants for the legs when I was 15. Loved it and wore it till it was threadbare!

I always thought culottes were tighter fitting than gauchos, but maybe not Seeing the post about the caballero clothing, I can see that gauchos would be tighter too.

KwikSew has a marvelous gaucho pattern. The number is 1984, and they come in three lengths, along with a sleeveless top. The pattern might be OOP but I'm sure they have it under another numbr.
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From: paroper
Date: 06-01-2006, 03:24 PM (23 of 46)
I always think of culottes as having a pleat in the front so that it looks more like a skirt. Is that just a style of culotte? I think of gauchos and Palazzos as being more of a pant.
pam

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From: mommgsews
Date: 06-03-2006, 01:19 AM (24 of 46)
The knit gauchos that I have seen have a wide band of stretch knit folded in half and applied as the waist/hip band. Lots of exercise pants are made that way, too.
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From: Kaitlinnegan
Date: 06-03-2006, 05:49 PM (25 of 46)
I started seeing gauchos around campus a couple years ago. Then only the skinny, trendy girls were wearing them, so I didn't even think about it. Now I've seen a lot normal people wearing them, and they are pretty flattering..I think I may have to try my hand at making some, once this wedding is over! They look so comfy.
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From: dek1625
Date: 06-08-2006, 10:02 PM (26 of 46)
Yes, I remember cullotes with a pleat in front too and gauchos being more like pants. I'm dating myself, but these were in style when I was a "young" lady.
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From: Sancin
Date: 06-09-2006, 03:58 PM (27 of 46)
Does anyone know where on the leg cropped pants should be? I have a pair of linen pants that I shortened a tad too much so am now considering making them into cropped pants. Further, should cropped pants be narrow or wider?
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From: DorothyL
Date: 06-09-2006, 05:16 PM (28 of 46)
Unless you have perfect legs the cropped pants should be a bit below or a bit above the biggest part of your calf.
Dorothy
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From: Sancin
Date: 06-10-2006, 12:08 AM (29 of 46)
Thanks, Dorothy. Somehow I thought the cropped pants would be nearer the ankle. I actually do not have bad shaped legs, unfortunately having fine veins below fine skin aging is leaving me with a lot of spider veins. At least I hope they are spider veins. I wore support hose my entire nursing career, just to avoid varicous veins. :sad: And they were hot.
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From: paroper
Date: 06-10-2006, 12:44 AM (30 of 46)
http://store.sewingtoday.com/cgi-bin/butterick/shop.cgi?s.item.B4744=x&TI=10005&page=1

or

http://store.sewingtoday.com/cgi-bin/voguepatterns/shop.cgi?s.item.V8130=x&TI=20018&page=2

or

http://store.sewingtoday.com/cgi-bin/voguepatterns/shop.cgi?s.item.V8086=x&TI=20018&page=3

perhaps this is more what you had in mind? I really don't know what all these levels of length are called.
pam

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From: Sancin
Date: 06-10-2006, 07:41 PM (31 of 46)
Yes,Pam, these are more what I had in mind. Seeing them however, makes me think. I have a 'city' friend who I have shopped with when she was wearing just above ankle pants. They looked great. But she is quite tall and slender while I am quite short and wide. I actually think I may look better in just above the knee pants or long pants. Out with the pins in from a mirror, coming up! :cool:
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From: paroper
Date: 06-10-2006, 08:06 PM (32 of 46)
I was hoping to give you a current "style". Often when we see the style on paper we realize it isn't the one for us.
pam

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From: Tummy
Date: 08-07-2006, 12:58 AM (33 of 46)
Even though this thread seems to have died back in June.. I have a question and hope someone comes back to answer.. lol

What are these pants?
Elephant, culottes?????

hanging pants (http://s34.photobucket.com/albums/d126/Tummy_earth/?action=view&current=Boh-culottes.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch2)

Laying flat on floor-open legs (http://s34.photobucket.com/albums/d126/Tummy_earth/?action=view&current=Culottesspreadout.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch1)
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From: sewmuchfun
Date: 08-07-2006, 06:34 AM (34 of 46)
If they are to the ankle/floor they are elephant pants. If they go to the knee they are culottes..
Marilyn

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From: paroper
Date: 08-07-2006, 08:09 AM (35 of 46)
culottes usually have a pleat in the front to make them look more like a skirt where gauchos look more like pants.
pam

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From: cvnativeinpa
Date: 08-07-2006, 08:20 AM (36 of 46)
Tummy, they're elephant pants. I'm with SewMuchFun. I'm sure she and I are from the same era. Culottes are knee length, or even shorter as in a scooter skirt, now called a "skort". But I made a pair of your pants back in the late 60's, that were like a jumper or a pair of overalls with straps at the top, but the legs were very wide, over 60" at the bottom. Simplicity had the pattern (I have a photographic memory as I loved the pants). Navy Blue shantung and a mint green silk blouse. Nice memory, and I hope you love your pants. The thing about my elephant pants is that they had to be pressed like regular slacks--you know, with the side seams together. This gave them more of a long skirt look.
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From: paroper
Date: 08-07-2006, 08:30 AM (37 of 46)
WHen they first came out we called them Pilazzo (spelling) pants after the designer. I don't recall that they were gathered at the waist but they were huge in the bottom...like a skirt. I LOVED those pants!!
pam

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From: sewsal
Date: 08-07-2006, 01:32 PM (38 of 46)
Hi, Everyone. Dug out my recently purchased culotte pattern. You might want to try Simplicity #4324 It is an inexpensive pattern, (It's So Easy brand). Got it at walmart for under 2 bucks. It also has cropped pants. Haven't sew it up yet, though.
I thought if you are fairly new to sewing the alteration of the pattern might be too overwhelming. :-) Hope this helps.

Sally
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From: Tummy
Date: 08-07-2006, 03:16 PM (39 of 46)
Tummy, they're elephant pants. I'm with SewMuchFun. I'm sure she and I are from the same era. But I made a pair of your pants back in the late 60's, that were like a jumper or a pair of overalls with straps at the top, but the legs were very wide, over 60" at the bottom.
Thank you.

I loooooove these pants, I am a total hippy at heart, I was born in the wrong era!!!

Mine are approx 50"(with a bit of stretch) at the bottom.

You made yours in the 60's, I made mine lastnight..lol
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From: bridesmom
Date: 08-07-2006, 10:36 PM (40 of 46)
Tummy, those are totally wild!!! I love them!
Laura
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From: cvnativeinpa
Date: 08-07-2006, 10:44 PM (41 of 46)
You made yours in the 60's, I made mine lastnight..lol[/QUOTE]

Yes, but I was much younger and thinner then.....they wouldn't fit now. And I wore them thin. About 1968 it was; when Jefferson Airplane was the hip group with their song White Rabbit. Grace Slick wore a pair in concert, a paisley velvet; really pretty. But I can't stand that stuff now...funny how time is.
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From: sewmuchfun
Date: 08-08-2006, 12:57 PM (42 of 46)
I wore an gown that the skirt were Palazzo's ( elephant pants) for my brothers wedding in 1971... Beautiful gown all pink/peach chiffon with a taffeta linning.. sheer chiffon puffy sleeves to the wrist with a velvet cuff and a velvet bow around the empire waist... Just loved that gown..
Marilyn

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From: Tummy
Date: 08-13-2006, 11:03 PM (43 of 46)
Tummy, those are totally wild!!! I love them!

I love wild!! Fits me, so I think..lol
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From: Kaitlinnegan
Date: 08-26-2006, 08:23 PM (44 of 46)
Reviving this thread for a dress code question -- do you think "elephant pants" are professional looking? I finally found some fabric I like and got this pattern: Butterick 4807 (http://store.sewingtoday.com/cgi-bin/butterick/shop.cgi?s.item.B4807=x&TI=10005&page=1)

The fabric is a polyester/rayon/spandex knit, rust colored and a fairly substantial weight. We are required to dress professionally for medical school when we are going to interview patients. The dress code forbids gauchos, capris, or any other kind of cropped pants, so I would definitely be doing long pants. I could either do the elephant pants, or more of a straight leg. Whether I can wear them for professional functions or not, I'm sure they'll be comfy and I'll get a lot of wear out of them. I'm just wondering what your opinions are. :bluesmile
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From: paroper
Date: 08-26-2006, 11:11 PM (45 of 46)
It probably depends on the job and how they look on the person who owns them. My daughter wore some gauchos to a job interview and she looked very professional...but she is a size 5.
pam

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From: Kaitlinnegan
Date: 08-27-2006, 07:42 PM (46 of 46)
Well, I am definitely not a size 5.. :re: It does seem that thinner people can pull off more "out there" stuff than those of us of the slightly pudgy variety. I guess we'll see how they turn out. They may end up looking a bit homemade anyway, in which case I'd just wear them for casual things. I guess it doesn't hurt to try!
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