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From: Butterflyrf71
Date: 06-09-2006, 07:23 PM (1 of 12)
So, I have a bunch of patches it's time to sew on to the vest. My daughters step-mother has sewn some of them on with her machine - inside the emroidered edging. I can see her machine was struggling as the thread in the back is big loops, not tight.

Is it just best to do these by hand?

If using a machine, what stitch is best?
You Lord, give perfect peace to those who keep their purpose firm, and place their trust in you. Isaiah 26:3, AV
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From: Sherri
Date: 06-09-2006, 07:48 PM (2 of 12)
I use my machine in a satin stitch over the edge. actually gracie does it.

sher
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From: AndreaSews
Date: 06-09-2006, 07:54 PM (3 of 12)
I did a straight stitch, matching thread color to the satin-stitched border that was all around the patches. It looked discreet, and they stayed on well. Only one of the patches was a stick-on, but I managed to get through that one too by machine. I could see how the adhesive on the back could stick to the needle and grab at the thread, making for that loopy mess on the back. There was one that was positioned half ON the pocket and half OFF of the pocket (it was a cub scout shirt), and that one I simply had to do by hand, and it was a hassle. I found it was quick work though, by machine.
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From: Butterflyrf71
Date: 06-09-2006, 08:20 PM (4 of 12)
I have an open toe foot, so I can do the satin stitch over the edge. These do have the iron on backing, the kind that never actually sticks, lol. Some of the Moms have given up and started glueing them on!

I'll use a heavy duty needle to penetrate the back, and do a practice not on vest to make sure.

Thanks!
You Lord, give perfect peace to those who keep their purpose firm, and place their trust in you. Isaiah 26:3, AV
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From: paroper
Date: 06-09-2006, 11:52 PM (5 of 12)
I used a long basting stitch and clear thread on the badge's satin edge. I used the color of the uniform for the backing. There are rules about how to apply the badges to the front of the uniform. I had parents who glued, hot glued, hand sewed, stapled...it was a mess. My kids grew while they were in scouts and every so often I had to move to a larger/longer vest or sash. The basting stitches just weren't that hard to take off. Over time I found that I really liked the vests a WHOLE lot better than the sashes (weren't as much trouble).

On the back I layered the badges. I believe the official stance is that they are not supposed to be back there but I never saw a GS without them. I learned in short order to layer the badges. I'd hang them off the bottom of the vest and carefully place them so that they pretty well went all the way across the vest...sometimes that meant hold them for a couple of events or just putting them on a little irregular until another came around. By layering the badges I had room for most of the badges. My kids had a lot of step badges too where there was a badge and then little year boxes under them. I did those from the shoulders down and leave space for the next 2 or 3 badges so that they could be added before they moved/flew up to the next level.

The cool thing about basting the badges is that not only can they be moved (as I already said), BUT they can be made into quilt blocks when they graduate from Scouting. My kids left at the end of the 6th and 8th grade. They and I both have tons of badges and patches to be put on the quilt when I decide I'm ready to start quilting!
pam

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From: Butterflyrf71
Date: 06-10-2006, 06:35 AM (6 of 12)
Ok. You convinced me. I'm using a basting stitch, and I'm removing all the ones Step-Mom put on and redoing them.

Do you men clear Nylon thread? (Is there another kind of clear thread now?) Remember, I'm rusty form the 80's!

The rules, according to Abbey's Troop Leader, is the patches go on the back (the bigger specialty ones) and badges, the little round ones, go on the front sides left and right, as well as the pins.

I asked her about what we were going to do when we had to transfer them over, she said she didn't know!

I do now!

Thanks Paroper!!!
You Lord, give perfect peace to those who keep their purpose firm, and place their trust in you. Isaiah 26:3, AV
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From: paroper
Date: 06-10-2006, 08:12 AM (7 of 12)
Yes. If you haven't bought monofiliment thread (clear or smoke) in the last several years, throw that old stuff away! The newer clear monofiliment thread is so much softer and easier to use...the old "stuff" was stiff and had a mind of its own, would come off too quickly, wrap around everything...it was terrible! You can just get it at any standard thread spool display at a local store (probably even Hancocks).

So, you have a Jr or Cadette? I LOVE to put on the Try-ITS.

http://www.girlscouts.org/program/gs_central/insignia/where_to_place/

It is pretty important that you place the upper level of GS awards correctly on the front. As she advances she'll be traveling more places with the group where she'll be exposed to out of state (and more) girls in uniform and she'll want to be "correct". My girls got almost all the Jr. badges and it pretty well filled the front of their uniforms, well into the arm hole area of the vest front. One of the reasons I like the vest better than the sash is that it has so much more space for the badges, the other is that it doesn't slip when worn. They also get really heavy with all the badges and patches.

Be sure that as she advances she keeps her sites on the WOW opportunities!!! Many of the girls from our neighborhood did some pretty cool Wows! One entire troop went to Hershey Pa for an international troop campout (kind of like a jamboree) for close to a week...from there they went to NYC for a play, visited Chicago...pretty cool for a group from central Oklahoma. We've had girls learn sailing on Lake Michigan. There are international WOWs. The one that EVERYONE wanted to do was the turtle save/release for taking baby turtles safely to their new enviroment after hatching. We've had girls go to Washington/Oregon....all over, even international. Our neighborhood had the policy that they paid the WOW cost (pretty expensive) if the family paid the travel costs. The WOWs normally cover the cost of room and board during the even. One of the popular events at these is a SWAP time. The most popular swaps are old badges from their own council. Our council has a drawer of badges that they draw upon to send badges with the girls when they go but often the girls will take badges from their own vests and trade them for really cool international badges!
pam

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From: Butterflyrf71
Date: 06-10-2006, 09:57 AM (8 of 12)
Thanks! Abbey is in 5th grade, so she is a Jr. I have two new spools of Nylon thread, used some for vinyl pockets.

Your help is so appreciated!
You Lord, give perfect peace to those who keep their purpose firm, and place their trust in you. Isaiah 26:3, AV
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From: MrsSnuggly
Date: 06-10-2006, 11:58 AM (9 of 12)
When I was in scouts my mom made us do them ourselves by hand. There used to be a rule that you could only put them 3 across the front (the little ones) but I think that has been changed because they upped the amount of badges you could earn as well. They also used to have alimited amount of the big ones that could go on back- also changed.

I'm still the only person I've ever met to be kicked out of girl scouts. Hah! It's ok though because I can still build a fire better than my husband.

Brandy
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From: funthreads
Date: 06-10-2006, 09:44 PM (10 of 12)
One more nifty trick for the patches on the back of the vest....work from the center line out. That way you can always fold your vest in half easily:)
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From: stephi
Date: 06-12-2006, 09:29 AM (11 of 12)
Wow you are actually going to sew them on!! :shock: My mom always just safty pinned mine on or threw them in a shoe box. Your daughters are soo lucky!!!
Stephi

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From: Sherri
Date: 06-12-2006, 02:38 PM (12 of 12)
We don't have Girl Scouts we have Girl Guides. So my dd is a Brownie. When I was a brownie many years ago my mom made me put my badges on so I also make my dd put hers on. There is a vest but the leaders have asked our girls to get the sash not the vest which is fine with me.
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