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From: Pudge99
Date: 01-24-2007, 03:31 PM (1 of 26)
Here is the deal. I have had 6 teeth pulled over the years. It is getting a bit hard to chew. Most of the rest of the teeth in my mouth are more filing than tooth. I currently have two teeth that are broken and need to either be pulled or have crowns put on them. Thing is I have to pay 75% of the cost on crowns and 10 or 20% on extractions.
So I guess what I want to know is should I just get them pulled and have them build a partial, or is it worth it to have them crown them and put in a bridge?
Gina
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From: SheliaHC
Date: 01-24-2007, 03:44 PM (2 of 26)
I know crowns are expensive because I have 5 but I would go with the crown instead of the partial. My dad had full dentures and he always told me to try and keep my teeth that I would miss them when they were gone. Good luck!

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From: GreenDragonLady
Date: 01-24-2007, 07:40 PM (3 of 26)
My mom just had a tooth fall out a couple of days ago. Not break off, but fall out. She has a complete top plate (which I've never seen, isn't that weird?), but I'm not sure about the bottom. Her dentist is recommending that her remaining teeth be pulled and a full plate go on the bottom as well.

She said it's due to bone loss (and I guess enamel loss in the tooth). The dentist said it's hereditary. So I guess I need to be extra careful. I do go to the dentist much more often than she does, and I take calcium and use enamel care toothpaste, so I'm already taking precautions.

I would probably do crowns if I could.
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From: Mom of Six
Date: 01-24-2007, 07:56 PM (4 of 26)
I'm right there with you! :bluesad: :bluesad:
I haven't ever had dental ins. so the kids teeth always came first. DH & I only went in when there was a problem & then did the cheapest treatment to stop the pain. I finally got dental Ins. through work. It costs me $34 each month. DH went in last month & they gave him a list of things to get done. Everything will be covered 100% unless they have to do a root canal. Then it will be about 1/4 of what I paid for DD last yr. DD, DS & I go in the first week in Feb. I have 2 broken teeth & some large cavities. DD just broke a tooth in half today. DS isn't having any problems but he is only covered until he is 19 which is next Oct. so I told him to get every little thing done while he can. Then he can go for another cleaning in early Sept. The only problem with the ins. is we have to go to one dental clinic & it takes forever to get an appointment. If you are in pain you can go there & sit & they will try to fit you in or call everyday & see if anyone cancels. Our old Dentist we could call & get in within the hour but you paid bigtime for the convienience.

Good luck Gina in whatever you decide.
Barb
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From: Chrysantha
Date: 01-24-2007, 09:22 PM (5 of 26)
I'd go for the crowns (GOLD) I have 3 of those and a 'regular' (fake one) that's had a crack...The gold ones are great to eat with...keep your teeth and go with the crowns...I too have lots of 1/2 tooth fillings that have cracked (bad dental work as a kid), but the rest of my teeth are fine...

My grandmother had an upper plate and a lower patrial, she always told me to keep my teeth...
My mother had all hers pulled (osteoperosis) and had fakes, but they were nice looking and she was never seen without them...(but she always told me too, to keep my teeth...)
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From: plrlegal
Date: 01-24-2007, 09:56 PM (6 of 26)
The dentist that dh and I go to does everything imaginable to save as many teeth as possible. In fact, he doesn't do extractions, he sends his patients to an oral surgeon but only if he can't save a tooth or feels the teeth are non-essential (i.e., wisdom teeth). I say if you have a regular dentist, consult with him and go with his best advice. I know crowns are expensive and getting more so all the time. DH has two gold crowns in the back due to the fact that his upper front teeth are a partial and our dentist put gold crowns in because the partial is held in by rings that slip over those particular jaw teeth and the gold won't wear or crack like porcelain does. Those two crowns have already cost us a small fortune and he still has one or two more to go. I have four crowns on the top four front teeth and they were almost $3,000 of which my dental insurance only paid 50%. I just had a checkup and cleaning so I don't have to go again until June. Whahooooo. Ladies please keep in mind that bad teeth and poor dental care can result in diseases in other parts of the body, i.e., heart, pancreas, etc.


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From: NDNQuilter
Date: 01-25-2007, 09:51 AM (7 of 26)
I go Wed. to the dentist for the exact same problem, Gina. I'm not sure myself if I can save the broke ones. I hope to. Good luck. Gena
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From: pretnichols
Date: 01-25-2007, 10:00 AM (8 of 26)
Most dentists will do everything possible to save your existing teeth. However, there are always exceptions. If they can crown, they will. In order to put in a bridge, they need at least 2 good teeth to act as anchors.

My mother had her entire top teeth removed when I was about 5. Unlike some of you, I have seen it quite often, but she only takes it out to brush, and then puts it back in, including when she is sleeping. When we were kids, our teeth came first, then my Dad's, then hers. There was never enough money left over for her :cry: . She had 6 teeth left on the bottom that were hers, but took a really bad fall in June 06. Broke a few. Unfortunately, we cannot convince her to go to the dentist for repairs. She knows it is past time for a full bottom plate, but keeps putting it off. I have told her the pain will be less than the surgery that she had after her fall to repair her broken nose!

Please ask your dentist for all options. He may recommend one more strongly than the other. Let's face it, you need your teeth for a long time to come, whether they are real or fake!

Good luck!:love:
Peggy

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From: GreenDragonLady
Date: 01-25-2007, 11:08 AM (9 of 26)
Funny sidebar...I was flossing my teeth this morning when the phone rang...it was my dentist calling to confirm an appointment!
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From: Pudge99
Date: 01-25-2007, 11:10 AM (10 of 26)
My mother had full dentures my whole life. My sister's teeth were so bad that she had full dentures by the time she was 20. My Dad has dentures on top and his own teeth on the bottom. His bottom teeth are what have me scared about the crowns. Every tooth that he had crowned has abcessed. My son's teeth are the same way. His baby teeth were just no good and he had to have a lot of crowns. Several of those have abcessed too. I just worry that after putting all that money into them they are just going to have to be pulled anyway. It would be great if the dentist had to refund your money if the tooth abcessed but they make no guarantees. I have an appointment to see a dentist on base at the end of the month. It is a teaching clinic so if someone needs to learn what I need done I can get it done there. My regular dentist(civilian) and I are crossing our fingers that they can do something for me.
Gina
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From: Patty22
Date: 01-26-2007, 08:30 AM (11 of 26)
The problem with pulling teeth and not replacing with a bridge, etc. is the existing teeth will move causing more problems (proper bite for chewing, etc.).

Let's face it....... the longer you can chew, the better your chances of better nutrition and a healthier body to keep your teeth healthy.
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From: Magot
Date: 01-26-2007, 09:01 AM (12 of 26)
Just got home from having had a tooth out.....there is a hole in my head and the lignocaine is starting to wear off.... have taken preemptive painkillers but what else do I do - I am not used to this type of trauma.:bluesad:

Still - it didn't take long and he didn't have to cut the gum - just cost me 100!
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From: GreenDragonLady
Date: 01-26-2007, 09:30 AM (13 of 26)
I don't know...when I had all 4 of my wisdom teeth out I didn't have any pain once they were out (I had pain while one was being pulled...it was infected and the doc didn't know it...the novocaine didn't work so he had to yank it anyway because he had started to pull it)
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From: Magot
Date: 01-26-2007, 09:43 AM (14 of 26)
I think I am going to treat myself to a slushy big frock movie laying on the sofa - and it a work day too! (He told me to be nice to myself and not go back to work!) now if only I had chocolate...
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From: lendube
Date: 01-26-2007, 12:01 PM (15 of 26)
you'd have to drink it.........:cool:

Feel better, chum. :wink:

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From: lizzybugsmommy
Date: 01-26-2007, 11:16 PM (16 of 26)
I remember the wisdom teeth pulling. Every single crack they made. I am allergic to the numbing meds so I was wide awake and had one pulled and one cut out. I was in alot of pain while they did it but after I was eating Taco Bell. When I had the third one done opted to go to sleep. I had never had any kind of dental work until then other than cleanings. I was very lucky I got my Dads good teeth. I have never had a cavity. I did have braces though but only needed the to straighten the bottom front 4 that were slightly out of line. Then I when we found out Lizzy was comming they didnt get the braces off quick enough. It caused my teeth to calsifie or how ever you spell it. I hope to have them fixed but waiting for ins. to take effect.
Catherine

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From: Magot
Date: 01-26-2007, 11:21 PM (17 of 26)
Now all the pain killers have worn off there is no pain anyway- just a hole in my head. So I just had a nice afternoon at home - then Tony came home with chocolate and took me out in the evening to get a kitten for my birthday...awwww. Perhaps I should call him molar in recognition of his arrival..
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From: PaulineG
Date: 01-27-2007, 07:18 AM (18 of 26)
Piccies please. Of the kitten - not the gaping hole in your head.
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From: Magot
Date: 01-27-2007, 04:18 PM (19 of 26)
Pauline . you can find him here
http://swn-archive.sew-whats-up.com/t-21338.html

He moves fast - you don't know how hard it was to take a picture of him sitting still..
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From: trini
Date: 01-28-2007, 03:28 PM (20 of 26)
What a beautiful shot! and what an adorable kitten!
I just love kittens too; however my dogs are already fully grown and thirst for fun, so I think it unwise to get one.
Every cat I have had in the past was brought here by my late husband. He swore however that he was not crazy about them. He did not convince me.
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From: gab10
Date: 02-03-2007, 12:20 AM (21 of 26)
Most dentists will do everything possible to save your existing teeth. The reason they want to save teeth it saves bone and you more money done the road. Once the teeth are gone the bone has handle the ware and and tear of a partial or Denture and you loose bone. If they crown your teeth will need healthy bone and gums around the tooth, or if they put in a bridge, they need at least 2 good teeth to act as anchors. If your oral hygiene is not kept up you can loose the anchor teeth. With a partial the clasp catch food like a hay rake, and take more care in cleaning the same with a bridge. The teeth that have most filling they can chip or brake. You would need find out how healthy the gums and bone is around the teeth. If you have healthy gums and bone, I would do crowns and or Bridges. Partials and Dentures might cost a little less, but can cost more down the road with bone lost and relines. All ways replace teeth that you loose casue it can casue bite problems and cleaning proplems. Find out what materials are avalible to you. I need some crowns. I am making payments every month to get my part paid so we can start. I watch what I eat and take care in cleaning, praying that I get it paid for before something else breaks. I wish you luck.
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From: Mom of Six
Date: 02-06-2007, 11:33 AM (22 of 26)
I just got back from the Dentist. He is going to save my bottom teeth but my top teeth are so bad that he said he could do a partial but the wires would show & they would wear on my teeth that He would keep & I would have to have a top denture within 5 yrs. or he can do it now. I chose to have the denture done now while I have ins. since we never know when they will decide to take it away. They are going to make a temporary plate before they pull them so I won't be without at all & then make a perm. one once my mouth heals. I wish they could start today but the first appt. was 4/3. Well at least they got cleaned today. DS is in now getting his done & DD goes tomorrow. Hopefully everything they need will be covered.
Barb
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From: Pudge99
Date: 02-06-2007, 02:17 PM (23 of 26)
Well my dentist of course wants to do the most expensive thing (crowns, bridges, etc. etc). He has to make a living right? The thing is, that with root canals and crowns there is no guarantee that the tooth can be saved. It takes up to two years for all the damage to the gums and bone to heal. So I pay him $2000 per tooth just so he can pull them 2 yrs. down the road. He did say that if he couldn't save them he wouldn't charge me for the extractions. HMMM. I would gladly pay him for the extractions. How about refunding the money I paid for the crown and root canal.
Well anyway my appointment at the base was dissapointing. I can drop my dental insurance and sign my mouth (and life) over to them. I would be there some days for 8 hours while they played around in my mouth and then have to come back the next day for 3 to 4 hours. And I might have to wait months for them to be able to fix things. As it is right now they will fix my two broken teeth if my dentist gives them permission but the expensive parts like crowns and bridges will still have to be done at my regular dentist. UUGH! I would just love to have them all pulled but my dentist refuses to do it.
Gina
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From: Mom of Six
Date: 02-06-2007, 02:40 PM (24 of 26)
The dentist was very hesitant about asking me. He said most people in their 50's fight having them pulled & then have to come back 2-5 yrs later & have it done anyway. Can you go to a different dentist? It sounds to me like this one is out for money & doesn't care what you want. My dentist said he would entertain any procedures I want done. He did say he prefers to save bottom teeth if possible because the bottom dentures are harder to fit & get used to.
Barb
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From: Pudge99
Date: 02-06-2007, 03:14 PM (25 of 26)
I like this dentist, don't really want to change. If I were in my 50's he might be more like your dentist but as I am in my 30's he wants to try to save them.
Gina
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From: HeyJudee
Date: 02-06-2007, 08:12 PM (26 of 26)
Gina, as I was growing up my parents didn't have money and I never went to a dentist except for one time (10 yrs old) to get my back teeth extracted since I was having toothaches and it was cheaper than getting them fixed. For some reason after that I decided to start taking care of my teeth (brushing every day) but still never flossed or visited a dentist until I was 28.

At that time, the dentist I saw would fix all my teeth except for the one that was cracked in the back. He wanted to pull it but decided to send me to a dental expert to get a second opinion. The expert asked me one question...did I have any sensitivity in that tooth when I ate. When I said no, his recommendation was that I just get it filled. When I went back to my dentist, he was doubtful...said in 6 months or a year, it would probably abscess & I'd need it pulled anyways. Well that filling lasted 14 years before I had to get a crown. I'm now over 50 and have only had 3 crowns over the past 25 years. So I'm also in favour of saving the teeth if at all possible. Good luck ....
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