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From: Bama
Date: 01-27-2007, 05:55 PM (1 of 30)
I was grocery shopping today and saw some Amish people in WalMart. In my whole life I've never seen Amish people in Alabama. The reason it's so strange is that I recently started reading a book called Rumspringa. It's about Amish teenagers coming of age. Very interesting.
I thought it was strange that I should see some Amish people here just after starting this book.
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From: Sewhappie
Date: 01-27-2007, 06:34 PM (2 of 30)
Heck it's nothing to see the horse and buggy hitched outside the Walmarts in Amish County in Ohio. DH & I went to the Walmart in Wooster Ohio last summer. We where talking to each other while walking to the door of the store when one of the horses whinnied and DH jumped 10' in the air!!!! He didn't see the horse hitched to the buggy 6' away from him!!! I live about 30 minutes Northeast of Amish Country. We also have a very strong Mennonite Following in this area.
I love going to Berlin (pronounced Burrr-lund), Ohio to the Quilt shops and watch them make Quilts!!! You can also get great prices on the fabrics too!!!! AND the food is SUPER!!!!!!
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From: Patty22
Date: 01-27-2007, 07:21 PM (3 of 30)
Naomi...... What about Hartville? I would go there as a kid when it wasn't developed. We would buy black angus at the animal auctions, then go around to all the booths and buy meat and fresh vegetables.

My seventh grade science teacher was Mennonite and he was wonderful! He was also a head of his community and I loved hearing about their barn raisings. He was a no nonsense individual and it was enjoyable always knowing where you stood as it was either black or white with no grey areas; everyone was treated more fairly this way.

There is a big fabric store there where the auction grounds use to be....I know what you mean about the food........oh I could die for their salad dressing :bg:

We have Mennonite families who have slowly purchased land in this area (displaced from PA, Lancaster area). They are very quiet and respectful individuals and I love seeing the moms with their little children in the store.
Patty
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From: Debby215
Date: 01-27-2007, 09:17 PM (4 of 30)
WOW, Naomi, how lucky you are to live so close to the great quiltshops in Ohio.I love Berlin especially, Zincks on the main street in Berlin has amazing prices, my second favorite is Millers in Charm....over 8000 bolts of fabric. It takes me hours just to touch it all...let alone choose...lol DH and I love to go there, he drives me to all the shops.How far do you live from there?
Debby
So much fabric....... So little time!!
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From: Sewhappie
Date: 01-27-2007, 11:20 PM (5 of 30)
Patty, Hartville has, sadly to say, started to grow into a suburb of both Akron and Canton. Big $$$ Houses all over out there.

http://www.hartvillekitchen.com/

This is what the new "Hartville Kitchen" looks like now. It is west of the old one and across the street about a 1/2 mile. The have built a BIGbuilding/barn out back of the kitchen and still have the indoor AND outdoor booths every week. ( I know for sure on Sat.) DH and I where just there this past Tues for their, knock out Meatloaf!!!!!
The Yankee Barn has closed this past year, so no more fabrics. Not sure if there are any new places opening there or not.
It takes us about 25 minutes on a good night to get to Hartville.

About 30 minutes to get to The Barn in Smithville. The best Apple Butter!!!!!!

http://www.thebarnrest.com/

Ind 35 minutes to the Amish Door in Wooster. BBQ RIBS!!!!!!

http://www.amishdoor.com/New%20Wooster.htm

The orginal one is in Wilmot, Ohio about 1 hr south of us.

http://www.amishdoor.com/NEWEST%20DIRECTIONS.htm

Have I made you hungry yet????

Patty, I told DH I want to move up to where you live. It's drop dead beautiful!!!!!!!
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From: DorothyL
Date: 01-28-2007, 09:48 AM (6 of 30)
Several years ago in the nearby county (Seneca) a realtor went to Amish country and talked several families into moving up there. Mennonites followed suit.
They figured the Amish and Mennonites would add something to the community and be good neighbors and they were right.
They also became an additional tourist attraction in wine country.
Now, as Patty said, they are spreading out.
They are really good people who mind their own business.
Dorothy
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From: Sherri
Date: 01-28-2007, 12:57 PM (7 of 30)
My MIL is Mennonite. Or more accurately is from a Mennonite Background. Where I grew up we had a lot of Hutterite colonies. There are also a few Hutterite colonies in Northern AB. Hutterites colonies are great places to buy meat and eggs.

Sher
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From: MotherInLaw
Date: 01-28-2007, 05:02 PM (8 of 30)
I need to brush up on my history I guess I've heard of Amish and the way they live but never of the others. Now you have me curious to what they are all about.

Bama where did you get that book from about these people. My friend in Ohio brought me back a cookbook from one of the Amish Restaurants in Ohio. Not sure where it is right now but it's packed up somewhere with all my cookbooks. The recipes look like they are really good. I'm going to have to try a few when I get my books out of storage.
I'm regressing back into my youth, I just have to figure out how I'm going to convience my body to come along with me.
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From: Bama
Date: 01-28-2007, 05:52 PM (9 of 30)
Susie,
I ordered the book from doubledaybookclub.com
You could probably find it on Amazon too. It's called Rumspringa by Tom Shachtman. According to the book, when an Amish child turns 16 they enter a period when they are allowed to live outside the bounds of their faith for a while. They get to try things that "English" teenagers do. By allowing them to do so, their parents hope they will learn enough to help them make the decision of whether to be baptized into the Amish church. It's very interesting. I had never heard of that part of Amish life before I started reading this book.
I've always been fascinated with Amish people. When I saw the people at Walmart I couldn't help but get close enough to admire the handiwork on the ladies bonnets and the tiny baby's bonnet and knitted blanket.
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From: Bama
Date: 01-28-2007, 05:56 PM (10 of 30)
I forgot to mention, my son asked me why there was not a horse and buggy in the parking lot if Amish peopele were inside the store. He thought they weren't allowed to ride in cars. According to this book, they can ride in cars. They just aren't allowed to own one. Some of the teenagers do buy cars when they enter Rumspringa. If they are baptized into the church, they give them up.
Now I'm curious if those people live near here, or if they're just traveling through here.
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From: Sewhappie
Date: 01-28-2007, 06:20 PM (11 of 30)
Bama, like you said Rumspringa is the period of time when the teenagers are allowed to go into the world and test their wings. Many willreturn to the Community they grew up in, but for those who decide not, the community will ban them from ever coming back. They are not even permitted to talk to them if they see them in their travels.
We have had a BIG problem in this part of Ohio with the teenage Amish boys getting outsiders to buy them beer and then go for wild buggy rides!!!
Route 62 in Ohio is a very heavily traveled and hilly road, used by cars, semi's and buggy's. At least 3 times a year they have bad accidents involving buggy's and vehicles. Many times the ones in the buggy's are killed. There are other times when the horses for some reason or another will just get spooked and end up flipping the buggy's.
Susie, it is my understanding that the Mennonites have many of the same beliefs as the Amish, but are more lenient with travel using motorized vehicles, social activities and schooling. Our vet is a Mennonite and super with our cats.
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From: Hogmami
Date: 01-28-2007, 06:34 PM (12 of 30)
Sewhappie, thanks for those site. My husband is from Ohio and knows where they are. Hopefully, next time we are down there we can go there. My grandfather's family where Amish amd I just love their quilts.
Carolyn
Michigan
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From: Patty22
Date: 01-28-2007, 06:52 PM (13 of 30)
About 20 years ago..... sorry, let's just say a few years ago as it sounds better.......

Our guild's annual show had an Amish wedding quilt put in by one of our members. She traveled up north to the Amish area to have her quilts quilted by the women in the community (and still does). One day the Amish woman's husband came out with her wedding quilt and asked my friend if she would like to buy it.

My friend said that she felt very uncomfortable knowing this woman was loosing her wedding quilt her husband had taken off her bed, but also knew that if she didn't buy it the next person that came through the door he was going to offer it to them so she bought the quilt.

At the quilt show that year, it was attened by another friend of mine who was orginally from Iowa (She had a daughter, Natalie, and I had a daughter, Natasha - uncommon names at the time). Her husband's family was Mennonite although she wasn't. She brought her MIL to the show and when I asked her if she liked the wedding quilt her reply was.."that old thing; too dark for me."

It cracked me up. The quilt was a bars pattern in very, very dark purple, green (olive..ish) and black cotton. I thought it was quite stunning because of its simplicity.

Guess beauty is all relative to the situation.

Sewhappie......Yankee Barn is gone? I was there in '94 and I bought all these great cottons off the sales racks....that place was HUGE. Of course I was into reproduction prints and I don't believe anyone else was in the area :) Got some great acidic greens.

My 8th grade sports dinner (I was a cheerleader...please remember there were no sports teams for girls back then) was at the Hartville Kitchen. Oh boy...this brings back memories!

Does Judie Rothermel still have her store in North Canton? I bought a red/white signature quilt from her; an early sanitation quilt from Chilocothe.

Where we live now in New York is similiar to what Ohio was like when I was a kid; not developed and agricultural based income. When we moved here in '77 it was like stepping back into the '50's.
Patty
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From: Sewhappie
Date: 01-28-2007, 09:13 PM (14 of 30)
www.schoolhousequilts.com

This should be her website. I had some trouble opening it.
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From: pretnichols
Date: 01-29-2007, 08:37 AM (15 of 30)
There is a colony of Amish in Northern Indiana, in Napanee. There is also a larger colony in Shipshewana, Indiana, but I think they are Mennonite. They have a huge flea market and all the shops are wonderful to visit. And they really do have wonderful food!

You an immediately tell when you get near to the towns, as the horse & buggies appear. When my nephew was about 5 or 6, and we were driving home (it was summer) we encounted some of them in a gas station. He turned to me and said very LOUDLY and clearly ---- Auntie, why are the pilgrims here today, it's not Thanksgiving yet!:bg:
Peggy

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From: lizzybugsmommy
Date: 01-29-2007, 09:19 AM (16 of 30)
Patty could you show us a pic of the wedding quilt? I would love to see it.

I think one diffrence between the mennonites and amish is music. Amish dont allow music it is a sin. They will shun a person for if they refuse to pubically confess their sin then ask the church elders for forgiveness. I have been reading a series based on the Amish faith. It can be awlful if being shunned and noone having anything to do with you even in your own home. If someone is talking to you during a shunning they to will be shunned.
Catherine

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From: Patty22
Date: 01-29-2007, 11:50 AM (17 of 30)
Catherine, I will have to visit my friend and ask her if I can take a picture of the wedding quilt.

There are differences in fabric choices and colors not only among the Amish and Mennonite, but also in the Amish of the PA area compared to the Amish of the Iowa location.

Mennonite use more prints and also incorporated applique (flowers and birds)....think PA dutch designs. Whereas Amish would use solid color cloth and the patterns incorporated squares,triangles, and rectangles creating angular patterns soften by the circular quilting including feathers, wreathes, pumpkin seeds, circles, etc. In books I have there are always exception to the rules and that includes double wedding ring pattern and fan designs. We have to remember that even though they may be segregated in society, they do not live in a vacuum. Certainly different groups are influenced by designs they see or that are popular and somehow incorporate those designs in their current style.

Pepper Cory had a book of Amish quilting patterns that was excellent (Quilting Designs from the Amish). Good resources on Amish patterns includes books by Rachel Pellman (Amish Quilt Patterns) and Michael Kile (Amish: The Art of the Quilt - featuring quilts from the Espirit collection in SF). Gail van der Hoof (along with husband Jonathon Holstein, I personally thought she was the person with the eye for the collecting and he was the individual ready to take credit) collected PA quilts in the early 70's and those became the basis for the Whitney Show in NYCity that helped spark the quilting revival of '76.
Patty
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From: cowqueenie
Date: 01-29-2007, 12:32 PM (18 of 30)
Hi Ladies!
I have been very interested in the Amish most of my life because my mom's best friend is a Mennonite and grew up along side a lot of Amish people in the Ohio area. We have a large community of Amish in Southern MN near Harmony and Lanesboro and we have a family of Amish that we have made friends with there. They are very decent, law abiding, respectful and respectable people. Just as all of you have said. My mom and I have read many books by a few authors (of whom I cannot remember their names and have made a call to my mom to get). The books are awesome learning tools while reading a great story! We have loved them and I will pass the info along when she calls me back! :) WE also have Mennonites living in our community. They used our Sunday School rooms for school during the week at church.
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From: Sewhappie
Date: 01-29-2007, 12:44 PM (19 of 30)
I think that it would be nice if we could each make our next blocks fitting to the Amish Community(s) in your area. IE: mine would be Ohio, someone from PA would do PA, someone from Indiana do In. The next thing would be to see just how many different community
(s) you have in your area and see just how different, if any, theirs are from others in the same area.
For those of you who do not have Amish and/or Mennonites in your state, pick one from the closest state to you that does!!
I know that I would be willing to help out finding patterns and resources for the blocks, since I live in a Amish/Mennonite area of Ohio.
Plus I think that this would be a great education for all of us!!!:bg:

http://www.helpinghandsquilts.com/
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From: esrun3
Date: 01-29-2007, 08:37 PM (20 of 30)
I love that idea-we have Mennonites here in AZ but no Amish-I'd lean toward PA Amish I think since I'm originally from there.
Lyn
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From: sue in NE
Date: 02-03-2007, 04:26 PM (21 of 30)
just had to rerspond. My Aunt and Uncle retired to Hartville. we went to the auctions and barn sales, growing up. even the New Hartville Kitchen before they died. Aunt even worked in the leather goods shop sewing gloves and booties, to pass the time.
No, the weren't Amish, nor from one of the original families ..or as my Aunt joked,'one of the 12 tribes'.
have been to Amana Colonies and a;lthough they claim to be Mennnonite, it isn' quite the same.
BTW, My Aunt claimed some Amish owned land in other parts of th country but had their Mennonite cousins drive them to see the landholdings. Don't know if it is true. Do know some youths joined the Mennonite sect after their 'coming of age' experience.
I used to teach in Tuscarawas County, had both Amish and 'Anglish' in classes, in 'New Philly' (School teams were the 'Quakers'). In school the 2nd language was German, not the usual Spanish It's close to Millersburg. Loved the Onion cheese. Found great furniture makers and leather shops, but wasn't looking for fabrics, then. :bang:
Was in Millersburg about 5 years ago, even more 'touristy'. But would love to find a recioe for peanut butter cream pie.
sue in NE
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From: mamahoogie
Date: 02-04-2007, 01:11 PM (22 of 30)
We have a huge Mennonite community in Ontario too - Near Fergus and Waterloo. Some are more liberal then others and drive cars - black only and no hubcaps - but still a lot of horse and buggies too. They are hard working, quiet people and the women love to quilt too.
We had a guest quilter at one of our quilt meetings and she said she was raised in that community but left to marry her husband who was Presbyterian. She was not shunned by her family as she mentioned her mother several times (apparently she has one daughter that is a bit defiant and her mother says it's "pay back")

I see a lot of Mennonites at Niagara Falls when we visit there every year (one of my most favorite places) so I know they like to travel. At least I guess they are Mennonites as I really don't know how to tell the difference between Amish and Mennonites.

We also have a lot of Mexican Mennonites which are completely different from the Mennonites most people know. They left Manitoba to go to Mexico but are very liberal and drink alcohol, etc. A lot of them are farm workers in the summer and return to Mexico in late fall.
The women wear black scarves on their heads and all the women and girls wear the same style of dress but in a wide variety of colours and prints. In most cases, the men are very much in charge of the household and most don't care much about education but the younger generation seem to be catching on to it and insist on going to school. Most of them are "home schooled" which means working in the fields which really makes my blood boil....but I guess it takes all kinds.

Violet
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From: cowqueenie
Date: 02-04-2007, 02:00 PM (23 of 30)
I found the names of the authors of the Amish books we read. One is Beverly lewis, another is Wanda Brunshetter (or something like that, I can't remember how to spell the last name) and the last one my mom has read it Cindy Woodsmall. cindy Woodsmall also has written some other types of books. ALL of Beverly Lewis books are awesome! We are so addicted that we sit on the edge of our chairs waiting for her next new one to come out! :) Our Amish friends have read some of them and have said that a lot of what she writes is true to their world. Anyhow, I just thought I would pass that info along to people who might like to read. Good place to get the books if you can't find them in your library is Half.com. You can get good deals on used or new books there. :)
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From: Sewhappie
Date: 02-06-2007, 03:25 PM (24 of 30)
Sue do you know where Gnadenhutten is?
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From: lizzybugsmommy
Date: 02-06-2007, 05:39 PM (25 of 30)
I have read some of the Beverly Lewis books. Pretty good. I cant wait to find some of the ones I am missing.
Catherine

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From: Patty22
Date: 02-06-2007, 08:19 PM (26 of 30)
I've got a story about the Amish...........all of it is true, and it may shock some of you. But "those Amish should be ashamed of themselves."

About...hmmmmm.... let's see my son is 27 now, so this was about 19 years ago.......... when my DS#2 was eight years old, my husband drove to Lancaster to buy some fabric on the way home from a trip from Washington, D.C.

I was in fabric heaven.........it was wonderful.......quilt shop after quilt shop...... when I heard a little voice in the back of the van saying, "Those Amish should be ashamed of themselves."

Wow....was my son precocious? Was he concerned about the sale of farmland for strip and factory outlet malls? Was he worried about the capitalism infiltrating a religious sect? What was of such concern for this little mind?

I turned around, (don't worry, I wasn't driving) and asked him what was wrong with the Amish. "Those Amish should be ashamed of themselves. There isn't one toy store around here."

My poor son, if he only knew I would telling stories about him this many years later, but it was so funny, my husband and I could never forget it! :bolt:
Patty
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From: esrun3
Date: 02-06-2007, 09:22 PM (27 of 30)
[QUOTE=cowqueenie;177905]I found the names of the authors of the Amish books we read. One is Beverly lewis, another is Wanda Brunshetter QUOTE]


I've read books by both of these wonderful authors-since I'm from the area I love reading the stories-they are pretty close to what I learned as I was growing up.
Lyn
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From: texasmom_35
Date: 02-16-2007, 09:20 PM (28 of 30)
I have read both Beverly lewis and Wanda Brunshetter book, actually I like Wanda's a little bit better but will read either. Just to let yall know, both aurthors are available at Wal-Mart but usually just one of the "groups" of books at a time. I have found both also available through Amazon.com for great deals (less then $2/book but with s/h they come to a bit less then Wal-Mart price). Since I live in the middle of nowhere and the nearest Wal-Mart that has a decent book selection is 45 miles away I order them when I can from Amazon.com.
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From: mamahoogie
Date: 02-20-2007, 04:32 PM (29 of 30)
I just finished When a Heart Cries by Cindy Woodsmall and really enjoyed it but was dismayed when I read that the second follow-up book is not going to be released until Sept/07. I hate that.
Violet
I've decided to live forever - so far, so good.
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From: diannab
Date: 03-19-2007, 06:11 PM (30 of 30)
Okay, are there any amish communties around me? I live in Georgia and have never came across any. :D I would love to go and look at their fabric and visit. :D They lead such interesting lives! :D I have read most of the books listed and love them all! :D
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