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From: MaryW
Date: 03-21-2007, 12:56 PM (1 of 79)
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Sad news for the industry. http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20070321005942&newsLang=en MaryW
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From: diannab
Date: 03-21-2007, 01:14 PM (2 of 79)
| Mary, I heard about this on another forum I am on! It is awful! With Walmart closing fabric sections this leaves some of us with JUST Joanns :( I thought sewing was making a comeback??? And now kaput? I wonder if there is any connection between the CFO/Vice President leaving for another company? I have heard that most are closing as their leases expire. Similar to Kmarts deals a while back :( No one will tell me if my stores are closing. :( |
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From: Bama
Date: 03-21-2007, 01:36 PM (3 of 79)
Wow.  With all the talk of Wamart closing their fabric departments, I've done alot of shopping at Hancock Fabrics the past few months. Even tho it's a long drive for me. It would be sad if they shut down. I'm afraid one day my only fabric shopping will be done online. It's sad. It's just not the same as being in the fabric store with all those fabrics to chose from. I went to Hobby Lobby yesterday, but didn't find any fabric I wanted. |
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From: MaryW
Date: 03-21-2007, 02:16 PM (4 of 79)
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Several stores will be closing. http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/16947045.htm Maybe they can regroup somehow. MaryW
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From: lendube
Date: 03-21-2007, 02:46 PM (5 of 79)
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The nearest Hancock's for me is 1 hour and 15 min. away but there's one that I go to when I visit my Mom. I've always thought of them for upholstery and industrial types of fabrics. Too bad. I'm left with JoAnn's which is fine but is also 1 hour's drive from here for me. The JoAnn's near my Mom closed about a year ago. Shopping for fabrics is a very tactile, sensual experience. You want to touch and smell the bolts and bolts. I'm afraid too that it's going to be online only before too long. I don't get it. Lennie |
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From: DorothyL
Date: 03-21-2007, 04:18 PM (6 of 79)
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They were in New York for only a year. I still miss them. Dorothy |
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From: LadySloPokes
Date: 03-21-2007, 05:52 PM (7 of 79)
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For those of you who still have a Hancock's store available to you---you are SO lucky!! Hancock's closed ALL of their New York state stores last year, and that was a real blow to a lot of sewers who didn't have any other place to shop for fabric. Now, I know that Joann's is not a preferred place to shop for a lot of folks, but I do have one of their big superstores in my town that I usually go to. I agree that online shopping for fabric is just not the way to shop, especially since you can't touch the fabric and see if it's what you need. I certainly hope that Hancock's will be able to regroup, as Mary mentioned, so we won't completely lose another chain of good quality fabric/sewing stores And I had not heard about Wal-Mart shutting down their fabrics sections....I'll have to stop by our new Super Wally World and check it out...
Cookie
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From: ChoctawCharli
Date: 03-22-2007, 02:43 PM (8 of 79)
While I was reading the news release, my SIL called to tell me that she had just left our local Hancock store and it, indeed is one of the 150 stores that are closeing! So sad! There was such jubilation in our area when Hancock opened! Although it was a small store, we were thrilled to be able to get quality apparel fabrics! There was (and is) a JoAnn's in town. But, as in most of them, it concentrated mostly on quilting, crafts and second class flat folds. I was in there the other day (I did feel like a traitor) and noticed that they had improved their apparel selection quite a bit - a sign of competition? Will it go away if Hancocks closes? Remains to be seen. So far, our particular WalMart, still carries bolted fabric and has a couple a wonderful Associates at the cutting table. I live an hour away from a mid-sized College city in SE Idaho. That is the town I a referencing. There is a slightly larger city two hours to the north of me, but I rarely go there. And of course, Salt Lake City Metro is three hours south. I go that way several times a year. But, since my DH is usually doing the driving then, extra stops for fabric shopping are rare! So goes my tale. CharliAnn |
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From: ChoctawCharli
Date: 03-22-2007, 02:55 PM (9 of 79)
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"I thought sewing was making a comeback??? " I think sewing is making a comeback. But, it is making a comeback with people who are so used to using the computer with everything, that maybe they are using the online fabric/notion stores more than the brick and mortar store. Maybe??? Perhaps, they haven't learned the art - the sense of touch - of fabric. The feel, the smell, the thrill of walking into a store full of POSSIBLES!! (yep, I used the word I wanted to use) Many of them don't understand the concept of "stash"! Of "I don't know what I will use it for, but I liked it!" They will, if they keep sewing - and hopefully, it won't be too late for our beloved brick and mortar stores. CharliAnn |
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From: Dee Marie
Date: 03-22-2007, 03:25 PM (10 of 79)
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We have 2 Hancock Fabrics stores and one just started it's liquidation sale this past Mon. We are praying the other one remains open. I've been going there for over 20 years! You get to know the employees. I love to feel the fabric, get inspiration, and always spend a small fortune. I worry about all these employees that are losing their jobs. So many companies have let employees go in MI and OH, and there aren't any new jobs in sight. Companies are leaving left and right. If you have a Hancock Fabrics, support it now. We need fabric stores other than quilt shops with only cottons. |
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From: Bama
Date: 03-22-2007, 04:22 PM (11 of 79)
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I've been going to the Hancock Fabrics near where my mother lives when I visit her. I love that store. It's large and always clean and organized. Went there with her and my sis a couple of weeks ago. They don't even sew and they like to go there with me. Well guess what? Mom called this morning to tell me that the store near her just put up a going out of business sign. She passed by it this morning and said the signs say 50% to 70% off. Guess where I'm going this weekend?  I really hate to see them close, but I'm going to check out the sale this weekend. It's almost my birthday.  There's a Hancock's in Birmingham that I go to if I'm in the area for something else. I haven't heard if they'll close or not. I hope not. There's 2 quilt shops in Birmingham too, but like Dee said, quilt shops carry cotton fabrics. Plus I can't always afford $8 to $9 a yard to make baby quilts or throws for the kids. |
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From: paroper
Date: 03-22-2007, 04:38 PM (12 of 79)
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I have friend whose SIL is a mgr at one of the closing Hancock stores (OKC). His store is the oldest and largest in the city and at one time it was the primary Hancocks in the area. There is a newer store about 3 miles away. That store was moved from a poor site where it was hard to find to a nice clean new shopping mall with good visibility. I imagine that is one of the reasons that his store is closing. The area where the old store is located has become a bit run down and a lot of businesses in the immediate area have changed hands and closed over recent years. His store was scheduled for a million plus dollar make over. On Friday he was told that his store, one in Tulsa and another in an ajoining state was closing. On Sat the liquidators were in the store marking everything down 20%. He was told he would have work about 12 weeks and that everything would be sold on-site. Others have been told that but things were shipped out of the store. (Who knows?)
pam
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From: plrlegal
Date: 03-22-2007, 06:12 PM (13 of 79)
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Pam are you talking about the Hancock's at 23rd & Portland? I hope not as I go there a lot on my lunch hour. If so, I'll be limited to the one in Midwest City (has changed managers about 10 times the last couple of years) and the one on I-240 and Penn. I hardly ever to go Joann's anymore as it is on the north side of the city at 63rd and NW Expressway. Patsy Patsy
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From: paroper
Date: 03-22-2007, 06:36 PM (14 of 79)
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That's the one. The MWC and Shawnee stores appear to be safe but that one has been hit and the manager is on his last legs. It is kind of odd because he has been in several of the stores. He was in the new one on NW highway before this. Now, they've decided to close the doors at 23 and Portland and his will be looking for a job. I used to shop the S. Shields, even the Cassidy and 23rd street Joanne stores but I hardly ever go to the one that is left. pam
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From: plrlegal
Date: 03-23-2007, 10:10 AM (15 of 79)
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I can see why they are closing that store. I don't think it has a whole lot of business, especially in the evenings and on weekends because of the location. I only go at lunch time and I have been there a couple of times on weekends but only if dh is with me. As far as the one Joann's that's left in the City, it is a pretty nice store but they are always lacking in help and the same girls do the cutting tables and run the registers. It is actually pretty well stocked with garment fabric and quilting fabric and it seems to be clean and well stocked all the time. I don't go there as much as I used to when our offices were at 46th and Lincoln as it is quite a bit further for me to drive on my lunch hour now. Patsy Patsy
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From: paroper
Date: 03-23-2007, 10:23 AM (16 of 79)
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I agree that the store was prime to be closed. The neighborhood has declined and with the stores that have changed hands and sold over the last few years, it is rather off the beaten path. I expected it to close and the one on NW highway to become the main store. The back portion of the store (behind the doors) is terribly run down. Aparently, according to the guy that is mgr, the store has TONS of storage and warehouse space the other stores do not have though and that may be why they have kept it open. I'm sure that it isn't making its keep so much as a fabric store, but it is probably more than making its keep as a warehouse. I can't imagine that they could find a cheaper warehouse in OKC, considering how long they have had the store and the probable cost of their lease.
pam
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From: Raine
Date: 03-23-2007, 11:49 AM (17 of 79)
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Ours is in the process of closing right now. They have lived through many years of bad management. I tried for years to get on the mail listing and never did. I swear they just threw the slips away. I like our Joann's store better, but they really need a new location. Too much stuff crammed into a small store. |
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From: plrlegal
Date: 03-23-2007, 12:00 PM (18 of 79)
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The thing I like abouth the 23rd Street store is that if none of the other Hancock's in the area had what you were looking for that store most usually had it. I'm kind of sad to to see that store close. They didn't seem to have as much of the junky home interior stuff as the other stores. Let's face it, if you're going to buy lamps, etc., you're most likely not going to do it at a fabric store. Most of us who are serious fabric shoppers are really tired of wading through all of the home interior junk to get to the fabrics. Their home dec fabric section is pretty terrific as well as their area for drapery & upholstery trim, etc. but most of the stores have a huge area taken up with pillows, chairs, tables, lamps, etc. that is always and forever marked down and never seems to go anywhere. At least the one Joann's up on NW Expressway has tended to divide the store so that the flowers, etc. are on one whole side and the other side is all fabric (quilting and garment). At Hancock's it's all mixed in together and you sometimes have to fight your way through that stuff to the fabric. Patsy Patsy
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From: Sew4Therapy
Date: 03-23-2007, 02:11 PM (19 of 79)
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DH and I visited the closing Hancock's about 30 miles from here (Russellville, AR) this morning. Most of the merchandise was only 20 % off. So didn't find any bargains. Even my husband said as we were leaving -- when did Hancock's start selling ready-to-wear and lamps, chairs, etc.? They even had shoes!! The fabric was crammed around the edges of the store -- very hard to browse. I am acquainted with one of the clerks and had asked her awhile back when they first started having all the home accessories, why they were getting away from their focus of having good quality fabrics and notions. She made the statement, "We sell more than you'd think." Well I didn't think they would sell any so I guess any sales would be covered in that statement. As for Wal-Mart fabric department. The clerk told me the other day that they had received a reprieve -- wouldn't be closing until August instead of June. Maybe some of my emails helped a little????!!! Gals, be glad if you still have JoAnn's. Russellville does have a Hobby Lobby but their selection is sad indeed. |
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From: DorothyL
Date: 03-23-2007, 02:53 PM (20 of 79)
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As for Wal-Mart fabric department. The clerk told me the other day that they had received a reprieve -- wouldn't be closing until August instead of June. Maybe some of my emails helped a little????!!! Or maybe that Hancocks is closing helped Dorothy |
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From: Kulerful
Date: 03-23-2007, 08:18 PM (21 of 79)
| I found out today our Hancocks is closing, shopped there 2 weeks ago and never knew anything until today. The staff report that they were told Friday and the company was in on Sat. to post signs. I understand all stores in Pa are closing except the one in Harrisburg. Rita |
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From: Judi
Date: 03-23-2007, 11:53 PM (22 of 79)
I tried both of the url's on page 1 but neither would open.  Is there any information of stores closing on the West Coast? I love my Hancocks, which is about 12 miles away. I won't have much of anything to choose from if and when they close. There is a JoAnns a couple of miles away, but I don't go in there much, and I don't like it that they will be 'the only place in town.'
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From: LadySloPokes
Date: 03-24-2007, 02:12 PM (23 of 79)
From what I am hearing, and from my own experience last year when my local Hancock's closed, there was nothing on their website about local stores being closed. Your best bet is either call them or just drive by it if you're in the area. I was able to get there a couple of times before they closed and found some nice quilters flannel and cotton panels on sale, as well as some pretty serger threads too. It wasn't much, but I had to get something before they closed....what kind of stash-keeper would I be if I had walked out empty-handed?! 
Cookie
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From: paroper
Date: 03-24-2007, 02:24 PM (24 of 79)
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I can't remember where it was posted but late in the "game" with the last postings, there was a place you could go and see what cities were affected by the closings. I don't think that the actual store locations were listed.
pam
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From: SmokiesCrafter
Date: 03-25-2007, 08:31 PM (25 of 79)
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I just heard today that the 3 Hancocks closest to me will be closing. That would be the 2 Knoxville, Tn. stores and the Maryville store. That leaves only one JoAnn's in Knoxville and the same person that told me about Hancocks said the JoAnn's might also be closing. I was at a WM store today and the fabric tables and shelves were really bare. The clerk said yes they were closing but didn't know what date yet. With these closings that leaves only Hobby Lobby and a few LQS, but no place for garmet fabrics unless you use a cotton. More internet shopping for me. I was hoping these stories were rumor and not fact. But I guess not. Jacke |
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From: paroper
Date: 03-25-2007, 08:34 PM (26 of 79)
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I finally saw a posting with the list. We should consider ourselves lucky. Only 5 in Oklahoma are closing. Two in OKC, one in Tulsa and one each in 2 nice size towns that are a little isolated. I don't know if either of the towns have more than one store or not, both are about 2 hours from the metro OKC area. Patsy, the Cassidy store, where I used to shop all the time is closing. pam
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From: toadusew
Date: 03-26-2007, 06:54 AM (27 of 79)
| The Hancock's store nearest me is also closing. I went in yesterday and saw the signs. The manager there said it would be May or June before they closed. A lot of the people there were upset because they didn't have any other resources for fabric. Another Hancock's a little bit further away is staying open and I still have a JoAnn's near me (but I"m not overly impressed with JoAnn's in general). There is a great fabric/quilt shop in the area, but it's quite a distance from me. I guess I'll have to do most of my fabric shopping online or at JoAnn's. |
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From: my2girlies
Date: 03-26-2007, 09:40 AM (28 of 79)
| Pam and Patsy - I can't believe the Britton (Cassidy) store is closing. It is my favorite. I just happened to be in there when they actually found out - so sad. i really don't like the I240 store and the one in Norman is nice, but they do not have the selection of the Britton store. I was really shocked that it was closing - there are always people in there when I go in and I go in there alot. So sad!! |
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From: Pudge99
Date: 03-26-2007, 10:08 AM (29 of 79)
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Pam, Do you mind sharing where you saw the list? I am curious to see if I will be loosing any of my stores. Gina
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From: paroper
Date: 03-26-2007, 10:32 AM (30 of 79)
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http://www.greatamerican.com/admin/uploads/events/ab36e900-21e8-4ba9-92f2-efd107dd0db8/Hancock%206.pdf
pam
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From: Pudge99
Date: 03-26-2007, 10:51 AM (31 of 79)
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I am very relieved to see that the store I frequent is not on the list. I don't think I have ever been to the one that is closing in San Antonio. So sorry for all you who are losing your stores .
Gina
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From: diannab
Date: 03-26-2007, 01:26 PM (32 of 79)
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Have you guys seen this list? http://www.greatamerican.com/admin/uploads/events/27f6afe7-4179-41c0-a7a5-07b5450e1db4/hancock%20store%20list%20020407.pdf are there any other lists? there is supposed to be 104 closing right? |
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From: paroper
Date: 03-26-2007, 01:34 PM (33 of 79)
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I didn't compare them but that looks like the earlier list. The link I posted above this has three pages and I think and hope it is the latest...let's all hope there are no more stores to add. It is 3 pages long.
pam
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From: plrlegal
Date: 03-26-2007, 09:57 PM (34 of 79)
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I have the complete list of the Phase I (30 stores) and Phase II (104) stores that are closing. A copy of the initial bankruptcy pleadings went across my desk today as the State of Oklahoma is named as one of their creditors. Every state where they have stores that are closing is named as a creditor in the bankruptcy so that the tax commission for each state is included. If you have a store in your area, let me know and I will check the list to see if it is on there. Patsy Patsy
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From: Chrysantha
Date: 03-26-2007, 10:19 PM (35 of 79)
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I'm not surprised to see the one in Pensacola closing. It was a dirty, nasty store and the employees were worse than JoAnn's...(our JoAnn's people are pretty nice, since the new owners took over a couple of yrs ago and beefed up the store...some of them actually SEW AND QUILT). Besides JoAnn's is right across the street from Hancocks there in P'cola and just down the street from 2 local quilt shops...
Chrys
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From: bridesmom
Date: 03-27-2007, 12:51 AM (36 of 79)
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I've never been to a Hancock's though I always wanted to see what they were like. I'm sorry to hear that they are closing so many stores. Do you think its the internet that is playing havoc on so many businesses?? I came home from our local sewing show and was amazed at the number of women there, and I heard that the Puyallup (?) show in Washington was also crazy packed with people. So if sewing/quilting is so popular, why are the stores closing?
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From: paroper
Date: 03-27-2007, 08:42 AM (37 of 79)
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Well, part of it is our fault. We want cheap patterns. They aren't making anything on the patterns they sell at .99 and 1.99. If we don't have patterns, we aren't tempted to buy fabric, so they discount the prices and we buy extras when we come in. To make money on the patterns they need to be sold at full price. (By the way, a lady at Hancocks said that her Wal Mart is no longer discounting the patterns). Women no longer HAVE to sew to put clothing on the backs of their children. It is so much cheaper AND quicker to buy ready to wear (and we know how it looks and it FITS), that even people who sew well are starting to move away from garment sewing. Women are working, families are incredibly busy...kids play baseball into the early mornings in the summer...they are at band, basketball, volleyball, soccer, cheerleading, play practice, dance, tumbling, voice lessons, HOME WORK, softwabll...sometimes they are on school AND maybe 2-3 league teams throughout the year. Some of the sports are year around now and if they aren't at a game, they are at practice. The competition starts when they are in PRESCHOOL...yeah, my dgd was invited to join soccer...the preacher's kid is younger than mine and he is playing. You no longer can wait on these thing because if you aren't playing, dancing or tumbling before school starts, your career is OVER!!!! So, women are turning more to quilting and embroidery. Quilting, although expensive in the long run allows you to use just 1/2 yard per color of cotton per color...you buy a lot of colors, but small amounts. Instead of a woman coming in to make 3 dresses of 2 1/2-4 yards of fabric, you have a woman coming in to make one quilt, or buy a few pieces for her quilt. Their ownly demand is 100% cotton fabric if they are a serious quilter (unless it is a special quilt), so there are no demands for the better fabrics, heavier fabrics, woolens, satins, chiffon, etc. Many quilters are not seamstresses (first) either, so they don't understand fabric quality. They are looking for BARGAINS...so the quality diminishes because they have to compete with the bargain stores (like Wal Mart, who is so loyal to their customers, they are closing THEIR fabric department to make MORE MONEY...not for bankruptcy). Most of the embroidery people do not sew, if they do it is more often a pillow or a purse. Most embroider on ready made garments/household items. Some people are finding sewing through the back door...starting with embroidery and quilting, we can only hope that this trend continues. Sewing has been taken out of most schools so the interest isn't being generated there. We'll also probably see the same thing happening in woodworking and farming (vo ag) as those areas are dropped from the schools. There has been some resergence with younger seamstresses but they are not supported, many are interested because of the "ramp" style programs on TV. Let's just hope that these trends continue before we have to start buying directly from the factories in other countries. We are being forced to the internet to buy. You'll always have people who are remote for whom the internet is the best answer for them...those people used to order their homes from the Sears catalog. My grandma used to mail order her baby chicks each spring from Sears. As finer fabrics have become harder to find, many times we have been forced to order from the internet. I'm sure that there are people under time constraints who have ordered too. However, most seamstresses prefer to see the colors, compare the prices, and quality and feel the fabric. They aren't all that satisfied to shop on the internet. Internet and time and ready to wear fabric pricing may have started this vicious circle, but internet will eventually win...I THINK, but you have to keep in mind that even the internet stores have patrons, if they don't patronize the stores, the internet stores may still not survive. pam
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From: Tom Land
Date: 03-27-2007, 09:39 AM (38 of 79)
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Very well put Pam. As the demand for fabric began to decline we had a surge of Fabric chains develop (Cloth World, Hancocks, So-Fro, etc) puting most the little guys out of business and department stores taking fabric out. Then as it continued to decline Wal-Mart got in the picture. Then the internet. What everyone is finding out is that the market is not that big and the profits are very small. With so many people trying to get just a little piece of it no one is making enough to stay in business.
Have fun or don't do it, Tom
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From: paroper
Date: 03-27-2007, 09:48 AM (39 of 79)
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The next set of people we need to be SUPPORTING is our local dealers. They can only sell to a percentage of the people who come through their doors. If we don't patronize locally, we'll see the best of those closing too...they are already getting more and more scarce! Then we'll all have to send our machines into the wild blue for simple cleaning....so girls, get out your checkbooks, and do some SPRING MACHINE CLEANING...we can do this!
pam
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From: Tom Land
Date: 03-28-2007, 09:16 AM (40 of 79)
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Its Official. Hancock's has notified me that I need not worry about the money they owe me. It won't be coming. Pam, I didn't realize they could include taxes in a bankruptcy. Have fun or don't do it, Tom
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From: paroper
Date: 03-28-2007, 09:34 AM (41 of 79)
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Oh, I'm sorry, Tom, I hadn't thought about a large store owing individual smaller companies money. The good news is that you can write it off on your taxes...the bad news is that I'm sure, just like anyone else you could use the money, it is unfair and even if you can write it off (I'm sure THAT wasn't in your plans). I'm sure that Patsy knows the details of how this is handled. pam
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From: MaryW
Date: 03-28-2007, 11:10 AM (42 of 79)
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Tom, I am so sorry. The ripple effect is mind boggling.
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From: greatseams
Date: 03-28-2007, 03:16 PM (43 of 79)
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I'm not surprised to see the one in Pensacola closing. It was a dirty, nasty store and the employees were worse than JoAnn's...(our JoAnn's people are pretty nice, since the new owners took over a couple of yrs ago and beefed up the store...some of them actually SEW AND QUILT). Besides JoAnn's is right across the street from Hancocks there in P'cola and just down the street from 2 local quilt shops... Hi Chrys... So sorry that you have had a bad experience at the Pensacola Hancocks. I have been shopping there for over 30 yrs, and do not have the same feeling about it that you have. I have always found the ladies who work there to be friendly, polite, and chocked full of great ideas. I love going there, and will certainly miss them when the store closes. I'll probably have to find my fabrics online, as I am not a quilter, or a crafter....I'm a seamstress. Alas...Pensacola will not have any quality fabrics stores left after Hancock closes.
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From: mamahoogie
Date: 03-29-2007, 09:32 AM (44 of 79)
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Hancock opened a new store in Port Huron, MI last year and are now closing it. Strange that they opened a new store in Michigan when they were closing stores in New York. Sad. Violet I've decided to live forever - so far, so good.
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From: paroper
Date: 03-29-2007, 09:51 AM (45 of 79)
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The Port Huron store was probably part of their long-range business plan. I don't think that all the closures were expected or something that had been planned long-range. I think it was more of a train wreck senerio.
pam
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From: plrlegal
Date: 03-29-2007, 12:04 PM (46 of 79)
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Tom were you listed as one of Hancock's creditors? If so, you need to file a claim form with the bankruptcy court where Hancock's in the United States Bankruptcy Court for the District of Delaware. If not, you need to file a claim anyway. Patsy Patsy
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From: SewManyProjects
Date: 03-30-2007, 03:54 PM (47 of 79)
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Wow, I just shopped at the one they're closing here in St. Louis. I thought it was just that store b/c it is pretty nasty. It is dirty and it is down in the basement of a strip mall, a wierd set up/entrance imo. I had to go back to that location for fabric to match a project. Spent hours choosing the right fabrics for another project. Get to the cutting table and find out that there is a 2 yard min. at only 20% discount. Rediculous!!!!
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From: greatseams
Date: 03-30-2007, 06:01 PM (48 of 79)
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I made a run for some more fabric this morning, and I was really surprized to see so many bolts of the exact same fabric. I had bought all that there was of one bolt two weeks ago, and lo and behold...there were 3 more of the same fabric! Since I didn't need any more, I focused in on some other fabrics. Fortunately, there wasn't a 2yd limit, so was able to get enough for whatever I want to make...usually 4yds will be enough for a project. I think that they are shipping some of it from other stores....that has been the practice for several years. I DID notice that all of the tacky shoes, and skirts and tee-shirts haven't been touched. It's all of the good fabrics that are flying out of the doors. One thing did make me chuckle...there is a BIG notice taped to the check-out counter...it gives all of the addresses ,phone numbers, and email addresses to Corporate Hancocks. GOOD MOVE!!! I hope that more people will contact them to tell them what idiots they are for closing our stores!!! a few spare hours, a stash of fabric, and a well oiled machine...
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From: paroper
Date: 03-30-2007, 06:06 PM (49 of 79)
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I've heard that some of the closing stores, (yes, the ones they marked the price of everything up and then down again store wide), are having record days. If that it true, they'll probably keep bringing in fabrics for the first week or two, as long as it is selling. It will help move the rest of the fabric! Of course, some of those bolts may have been backstock that was already there.
pam
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From: SewManyProjects
Date: 03-30-2007, 06:10 PM (50 of 79)
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I did see some home dec. fabrics that I'd like to go back & buy, 5 yard min. there, but that suits me just fine. The 2 yard min. was stinky for me, I just needed .5 of a yard of all the fabric I bought. 
Ashlea
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From: DorothyL
Date: 03-31-2007, 08:13 AM (51 of 79)
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When they closed the store here I thought they were bringing in fabric they wanted to get rid of from other stores. And that 20 percent got higher as time went on. They had one yard minimums on most fabrics (I think) two yards on quilting cotton and five yards on the home dec stuff. Dorothy |
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From: Patty22
Date: 03-31-2007, 09:36 AM (52 of 79)
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I'm still trying to use up all the fabric that I purchased last summer when our Hancocks closed.....but it made me mad to see the sale fabric costing more than when they had a regular sale in the store. I had purchased some fabric online from Hancock - a particular print I couldn't get anywhere and needed because I wanted to make pillowcases to match a quilt - and it took almost two weeks for them to process my order. Once they did though, I got it in two days. Although I like purchasing fabric online....nothing replaces the tactile experience of being with the fabric in person. I found some ticking fabric at the LQS (which I was hesitant in putting in a quilt because of my conception of ticking fabric when I was a kid - very stiff and wouldn't be able to needle well) that was soft and felt like silk. Now that is a fabric I would have purchased a bolt of if they had it! Patty
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From: beachgirl
Date: 03-31-2007, 11:16 PM (53 of 79)
| The store here in Naples is closing also. I called the store today & the sale is in progress. Said 50 to 85 % off everything. I might go tomorrow just to see what they are selling or have left. I know some of the WaMarts here are closing their fabric departments. The new Jo Ann's etc here doesn't have near the fabric that our old one had & some of the quality isn't too good. At least the one in Ft Myers ( 40 miles away ) has a large fabric department. In fact 3, one is quilting ,one for home dec & one for clothing. All 3 are quite large with great selections. |
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From: Shellymoon
Date: 04-01-2007, 07:14 PM (54 of 79)
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I am sad to see Hancocks go, but I think the same thing is happening to them that is happening in a lot of corporate-owned retail....the people with VP in frontof thier names refuse to do what it takes to make the stores the best they can be. I know we've watched Hancocks slip during the last five years. They are always cluttered and in some cases, just plain dirty. It's hard to find what you want for tripping over all the home dec stuff, that never seems to sell. And, at least in my case, the staff was not pleasant in many instances. Could it be they were hiring people who don't know enough about the product? At other times, there would only be one or two employees in the store trying to cut fabric and run the register. In my area there are several Hancocks stores in dicey neighborhoods where you don't want to go at night, too. Why are those locations still open? Do drug dealers need two yards of toille? I think not. There are, of course, exceptions to every rule, and of all the Hancock Fabrics in Dallas/Fort Worth, one of the cleanest, nicest stores is here in my little suburb. They do have a good selection of fabric and helpful employees who seem to know what they are doing. I hope they are able to remain open. They are in the same state that JoAnns was in a few years ago. They were able to turn that store around (although they had to sacrifice 2/3 of the floor space to scrapbooking and floral). I hope someone who understands us takes the helm at Hancocks. Shelly Moon
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From: Shellymoon
Date: 04-01-2007, 07:24 PM (55 of 79)
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Okay...so I went back and looked at the list and of the 8 Hancocks in Dalla/Fort Worth, five of them are closing. There are three others listed in the phone book, but they're all a pretty good ways from me and not worth fighting traffic to get to. The other one is between me and my mother (in Fort Worth) so I might be able to pop in there sometimes. But, my little haven on Midway Road in Carrollton is closing. Sigh. Shelly Moon
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From: plrlegal
Date: 04-01-2007, 08:04 PM (56 of 79)
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Shellymoon if your Hancock Store in Carrollton is at 2661 Midway Road, Suite 216, it is listed on the Phase 2 stores that will be closing. Patsy Patsy
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From: Shellymoon
Date: 04-02-2007, 10:24 PM (57 of 79)
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Yeah....that's the one...Guess I'll go over sometime this month and have one last look around. I'm thankful that I'll still have the Perth Street shops, but they are a destination for me...can't run down there every Saturday. I also live close to that new super high end Wal-Mart that doesn't sell fabric. So far my run of the mill Wally World still has a fabric dept., although it's a tiny one. Guess they don't know about the dozens of sewing and quilt guilds in D/FW. I see my stash shrinking.... Shelly Moon
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From: colojd
Date: 04-05-2007, 02:14 PM (58 of 79)
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It is sad that the sources of fabric and notion stores seem to be going away. I owend and operated my own shop for six years. It was fun and hard work, but so many of my customers loved that they could find decent quality fabrics and unique items that made sewing fun. So perhaps what will happen is that with the bigger stores going out of business, it will allow the smaller independent shops to re-emerge. When I had been in business for about four years, Wal-Mart came into our town. I saw my sales drop for about three months. Then the customers started coming back and business resumed. So many of them commented that what they thought was a bargain was just the cost and not the quality of what they were getting. As an independent, I often had to buy the "first quality goods" which of course will sell more than the other type of fabric available to the large chains. I was glad I hung in there believing that my customers would come back. So many small stores were so afraid of Wal-Mart that they immediately closed their doors. The Hancocks that is closest to us is a fairly big store, but so much of their floor space is now dedicated to things other than fabrics. They have a section of small furniture, home dec items, candles, etc. They also added a small department where they sell Bernina machines and products. Some of their floor space are aisles of packaged crafts. I was in the store two days ago - they have a small amount of new seasonal items on tables right at the front, the rest are large tables of random fabrics, flat folds, remnants and so forth. It looks like there is a lot but there are few new fresh fabrics, and maybe this is where they have gotten in problems. I went in for a basic fabric and they were out and didn't know when they would re-order. I am sure that this is frustrating for a lot of us who sew. Joyce |
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From: Judi
Date: 04-05-2007, 05:10 PM (59 of 79)
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I wnet into my nearest Hancocks for basic fabric and they were out too. One of the 'older' clerks agreed that this should not be happening, and suggested I could contact corporate offices. I did, by e-mail. I got several emails back, from a person with a name. When I went in a couple of weeks later, the fabric was there. I also found out that the manager had been notified of the comments - and is now much better about having 'basic' fabrics in stock. There is something we can do. At least it worked for me. This store is not one of the ones on the closing list. hopefully it will stay that way.
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From: HeatherL
Date: 04-12-2007, 11:13 AM (60 of 79)
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So perhaps what will happen is that with the bigger stores going out of business, it will allow the smaller independent shops to re-emerge. Oh, I certainly hope so! Our Hancock store closed about 3 years ago, and with Wal-Mart phasing out all I have left in my area is JoAnn's. Granted, there are 5 within driving distance, but still, there are only minor variations in selection. I have gotten burned on so many RTW things I've ordered online because the picture looked lovely but when the garment arrived, it was made from poor quality fabric. I can't imagine shopping for fabric the same way. I need to see, touch, drape...it's only then that I get a good idea of what it "wants to be", kwim? I remember when I was a child and my mother was sewing our clothes, there were so many stores. Most department stores like Murphy's and KMart still carried fabric, plus we had larger chains like Minnesota Fabrics... Now it's just JoAnn's around here, and it seems to be mostly "craft" items these days. Don't get me wrong, I love other crafts too...but I can get that stuff at Michael's or Pat Catan's. My beloved fabric is getting harder and harder to find. *sigh* This just makes me so sad. |
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From: colojd
Date: 04-12-2007, 11:40 AM (61 of 79)
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When I had my shop, one of my salespeople told me that fabric shops thrive when the economy is poor. People have less spending money for clothes and luxury items so see sewing as a good way to have quality clothes and save money. If you happen to have independent stores in your area, write them and tell them that with the closure of some many of the big chains, you would like to see them set up a branch of their store in your area. Might be worth a try. We have a nice one here in the Denver area called Denver Fabrics, but they are really far from my house. I will still write them and ask if they would consider opening another store where we are. I also remember when department and variety stores had fabric departments, and the fabric they carried was always new stock. The employees knew how to sew and there was even sample garments on display. I always had samples and the customers loved it and said it helped them to see how the fabric would make up. The disappointing thing about the Hancocks where I am is that about a quarter of their store are things like candles, pictures, headboards and other home decorating things. Then in the past year, they allotted another section of their store for a mini store for Bernina Sewing machines. They have one section that used to have special occasion fabric that is now rows of packaged craft items like sequins, etc.So basically when you walk in, you see the only tables with new items, and the rest of the floor are flat folds, random assortments, remnants, etc. Looks like a big store until you see that there is little that is fresh and new. |
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From: paroper
Date: 04-12-2007, 11:57 AM (62 of 79)
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Well, truth be known, I don't think that the demise of sewing and fabric stores has anything at all to do with the consumer. The fabric mills and pattern companies have done it to themselves. When you can look at a Vogue pattern and it is $28. or at a McCalls pattern and it is marked $16.95 it is enough to make your hair gray. When companies sell these patterns for 99 cents or 1.99 it is because they know that they don't sell all that much fabric without the patterns but in fact, the companies LOOSE a lot of money when they sell the patterns for that. I don't know how many times I've heard companies say they can't make money on the patterns. Then, if you don't know better and you pay a fortune for your pattern, you turn around an pay outrageous prices for the fabric. Well, if the pattern is $17. and the fabric is sold for $5.95 a yard when you may need 2 yards, why wouldn't you buy ready to wear for $25 and you can try it on and make sure that it fits well to boot? Then people pay their $29. for fabric and pattern and go to a seamstress and want her to do it for practically free because "After all, if I want to PAY ready to wear prices, I'll buy ready to wear!" Quilting? Have you looked at the price of good BATTING lately???? Embroidery...don't EVEN go there...the machines, the stabilzers, the cost of threads, patterns, software....it is incredible!!!!! No wonder people want to get into sports where they can "play" without spending a whole lot of money...that is until you get to leagues, uniforms, etc...but for fun you can just "do" it with a cheap ball and bat or a basketball and a hoop. pam
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From: plrlegal
Date: 04-12-2007, 01:35 PM (63 of 79)
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However, I signed up for Hancock Fabrics flyer and when I get a 40% off coupon, I buy the fabric I want, either garment or quilting and the same thing with Joann's. As far as quilitng goes, watch for their sales ads and when they mark batting, notions, etc. down to 40 or 50%, stock up on it. I'm not shopping at the present time, because my sewing room runneth over and dh is threatening to forego putting new carpet or hardwood flooring in my sewing room if put anything else in there for him to have to move. There are some economical ways you can sew, quilt & embroider if you are in an area where there are Joann's or Hancock stores if you watch for their sales. Also, as far as Joann's fabrics go, if you know your fabrics and take your time to look among the other stuff, you can come away with some pretty good deals. I have found that in their store here where I shop from time to time they have a wall of calicos but if you take your time and actually look at the bolts, they have some good quality, expensive fabrics in there and the same thing in the garment fabrics. I don't go to our Joann's here in OKC unless I have time to browse and spend some time in there. Patsy Patsy
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From: greatseams
Date: 04-13-2007, 07:55 AM (64 of 79)
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The manager of our Hancocks has been telling all of the customers to shop at one of our local independent fabric stores, and she has already had conversations with the manager of one of them to let them know that she is doing this. My sewing group is going to be meeting there tomorrow...so I can't wait to see if the manager heeded the words of our Hancocks manager. I truly appreciate the courage of our Hancocks manager to do this because she, like a good part of her customers, is a seamstress, and is more into garment construction rather than crafts and quilts. When Hancocks closes it's doors in a few weeks, there will be no decent dress/suit/pants weight fabric in this town. We have a Joann etc store...and it's nearly all fluffy stuff...toys...kitchen gadgets...garden dec. the fabric is to the right of things, and the quality is enough to make me want to sell off my machines and just quit! The employees are rude and lazy...not a place that I want to shop.
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From: sewhappyrtr
Date: 04-13-2007, 08:06 AM (65 of 79)
| I went to our local Hancock fabrics last week, and everything was on sale. 30% to 50% off on most everything. I sent an email to their web site, and got back an email saying how sorry they were to be closing the store, but thing is I dont think they really care. I have a Joann also by me, but I did like Hancocks, because they always had a good selection of Disney fabric, which I use alot, I make my medical scrubs to wear, and the children always like to see the Disney look. I also used the college fabric alot. Well, we will have to see what happens next.. I have never ordered fabric online.. is there a good place to go to for that? Thanks |
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From: flossieblossie
Date: 04-13-2007, 09:59 AM (66 of 79)
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Hi all, I am in the UK and the fabric i can buy in stores is sooo limited. I have an Indian fabric store near work that does some craft fabrics but the designs are quite ropey although if you find what you want they are cheap (by UK standards), a Hobbycraft chain store that is the same - not much that's new and inspirational, and a small local shop that does some bits of end of line stuff, and calico. He does have huge sacks of small pieces that are always good fun to rummage through, and so cheap cos he sells it by weight!! That's my lot. I buy most of my fabric online from the US. It's tons cheaper than buying it here (Amy Butler, Kaffe Fassett, Denyse Smidt etc fabrics are half price INCLUDING shipping!!). I use Material Gal e-bay shop, The fat quarter shop and Cias Palette. All are lovely to deal with. I do sooo wish there was somewhere for me to buy fabrics in person, as you never know whether the fabric colours on the pics are true, and it's nice if you are choosing a few coordinating fabrics to be able to see them all together. B. x |
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From: Sew-Enchanting
Date: 04-14-2007, 09:03 PM (67 of 79)
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Our local Hancock is one of those closing, too, and that's so depressing! :( I prefer them to JoAnn's because of the selection they have. (had) I did hear a Hobby Lobby is opening up where our old Walmart was (we got a new SuperCenter last fall) - but I've never been in one. What can I expect there? Dare I hope they have...material? Back to Hancock's - they are leaving 2 open in southern WI, one is about 45 minutes away and one is a little over an hour. Guess I'll have to plan my trips better. On a good note - I was able to stock up on things that are NEVER on sale - trims, horsehair braid, zippers, buttons - and our store, at least, is also selling all their hardware - thread display racks, fabric racks, pattern cases, pegboard, etc. Kinda nice. I may redo my studio.
Kris
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From: Tom Land
Date: 04-15-2007, 12:30 AM (68 of 79)
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Most Hobby Lobbys have a fabric department comparable to Wal-Marts in size but the fabric is usually better. I was sitting here thinking of how small that is but then when I think of the space that Jo Anns now designates for fabric it really isn't in comparison. Have fun or don't do it, Tom
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From: ninifav
Date: 04-15-2007, 01:20 AM (69 of 79)
| NO bathrooms!!! I just about dropped my bottom jaw!! This JoAnn's is in New Orleans...the manager(?) there told me that it is a corporate decision and it is going to happen at all stores...will only have bathrooms where it is against code to not have one...gimme a break!! But on the other hand, the lady said that it was incredible the cost of continuous plumbing bills; and that it was unbelievable the things that were put in the toilets; and how some people really soiled the bathrooms...geez, what's next??? |
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From: beachgirl
Date: 04-15-2007, 02:05 AM (70 of 79)
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That's terrible, no bathrooms. Who can shop if they need a potty ? Not me. Plus what about someone taking a child along with them ? Who's going to clean up that puddle ? CLEAN UP ON ISLE 4 !!! ? At least we won't have to worry about no bathrooms here as the you have to have men , womens & handycap bathrooms in all public places here. HOORAY !!! NO POTTIES, NO BUSINESS, PERIOD.
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From: paroper
Date: 04-15-2007, 08:31 AM (71 of 79)
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You can also sign up for a weekly flyer for Hobby Lobby and get coupons. They nearly always have something on sale in the fabric department and all their sales last a week. The online flyer also has an extra discout coupon, sometimes for 40% off regular price of one item (your choice) and that is often store-wide. They've changed the coupon format...be sure and slick the e-mail to get to the flyer (it used to come right up).
pam
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From: DorothyL
Date: 04-15-2007, 10:08 AM (72 of 79)
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Gee, Most stores here don't have bathrooms and we survive. Dorothy |
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From: beachgirl
Date: 04-15-2007, 12:51 PM (73 of 79)
| My DH just told me it's a Federal law that you HAVE to have bathroom in a store UNLESS it's in a place like a mall that has bathrooms that is only so many feet away from those stores. Believe me, he does know his job & the laws on this. So the stores that don't have bathrooms for the customers there has to be one fairly close by. |
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From: DorothyL
Date: 04-15-2007, 01:33 PM (74 of 79)
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Well, I would expect they have bathrooms for employees but not the public. Often you see signs -- no public restrooms. Dorothy |
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From: Judi
Date: 04-15-2007, 02:04 PM (75 of 79)
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I have to drive across town to the fabric stores, and often when I get there I need to use the 'facility'. I will shop a lot longer if I'm not worried about a 'puddle'. Even my grocery store has restrooms. Hancocks has one - a Unisex, handicap accessible one. Then I can browse to my hearts content. I have to admit though that I am disgusted with the way some people treat these amenities. I wonder how they would feel if someone came into their home and treated it likewise. Judi
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From: beachgirl
Date: 04-15-2007, 04:38 PM (76 of 79)
| Dorothy, Yes they have bathrooms for the ones that work there But there has to be bathrooms for the public if the store is a single building or if it's like in a mall or a group of stores that share common walls then there has to be public bathrooms close by in that building no more than a certain feet away. That is a federal law for all the USA states. In each store as well they have to have a bathroom for their workers.Any public place has to have access for a bathroom except some rest stops but a sign has to be displayed on the highway before you get to the turn off. If a store doesn't comply they don't get their final inspection & can't open period. |
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From: MarciaK
Date: 04-16-2007, 09:21 PM (77 of 79)
| I did not see my store on the list. I don't like to go there, but I hate to see them go away. Most of the employees are crabby, too old to care and slow as molasses in January. The young one doesn't know one fabric from another. Joanne's has finally employed people who know something about sewing, but it's still geared for the quilters and crafters. I'm a dressmaker. |
User: MarciaK
Member since: 02-06-2004 Total posts: 32
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From: grandma C
Date: 04-17-2007, 04:12 AM (78 of 79)
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I was in Hancocks in Huntsville, Alabama On Saturday and they said they are not closing. The store is clean and has a semi nice bathrooom. The selection of fabrics is nice. I finaly ran across a sales clerk that seemed to know her stuff. Before the people that have waited on me didn seem to knowledgable. I don't think there is Joanns in Huntsville. There is only Hobby Lobby and a couple of tiny speciaalty shops where you can buy fabric in Huntsville and I live 40 miles away from there. Wal-mart in Scottsboro is the closest place to buy fabric (15 miles away from Woodville where I live) Of course they only carry a small selection of fabric. Grandma C http://s168.photobucket.com/albums/u174/grandmac_album/ |
User: grandma C
Member since: 01-15-2007 Total posts: 263 |
From: toadusew
Date: 04-17-2007, 08:05 AM (79 of 79)
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When I lived in Dallas, I had a Hobby Lobby about a mile and half from my house. They didn't have a big fabric selection, but I felt that the quality of their fabric was better than Hancock's. The button selection wasn't quite as good as Hancock's, but everything else was comparable. I really miss my Hobby Lobby! Where I live now there is only one choice--JoAnn's--and I don't really like to go there because I've seen the manager be rude to customers more than once and the employees don't always know much about sewing. And just like all the other JoAnn's they no longer have a public restroom either. I really really miss my Hobby Lobby! |
User: toadusew
Member since: 01-08-2005 Total posts: 369 |
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