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From: dianasiah
Date: 03-21-2007, 03:26 PM (1 of 32)
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Hi Everyone!! I am looking into buying a polyester thread set (preferably 100 colors) and would like to find out which are the better brands in the market.. Any recommendations?? Thanks Diana Ps, I wanna purchase online, with international shipping! Notions in france is expensive.. Feel free to browse...
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From: paroper
Date: 03-21-2007, 05:58 PM (2 of 32)
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Normally I tell people not to bother to purchase threads by set for sewing. Colors change by season and so do hues of color. However, in your position, I can see where this might be an exception. If I were going to purchase sewing thread, ironically I would look at the European threads. Search the archives on this subject..we've had some very good discussion on thread in the past. Mettler is an excellent brand. If I were looking at thread for embroidery, I would go to Isacord (also European, made with Mettler in Bavaria), or Madera, Anston Robinson (hope that is how it is spelled, or Marathon (first). I wouldn't recommend anything but Yenment for metalic. http://swn-archive.sew-whats-up.com/t-21453.html&highlight=gutterman http://swn-archive.sew-whats-up.com/t-21454.html&highlight=gutterman http://swn-archive.sew-whats-up.com/t-19885.html&highlight=gutterman There are other "threads" on thread also. I used Gutterman to find these because I was particularly looking for sewing thread. You can search for other brands but the main thread company names will come up over and over. pam
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From: dianasiah
Date: 03-23-2007, 11:26 PM (3 of 32)
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Thanks Paroper, Din manage to get back here to check the forum until today.. I checked on Mettler also. Think it looks good and comes highly recommended by alot of sewers online. Will go and check it out.. And, I figured what you said is true. No point getting a whole set.. Thanks Diana Feel free to browse...
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From: dcloud
Date: 03-24-2007, 04:19 AM (4 of 32)
| Been following this thread (no pun intended, lol). I found the Mettler site and then one of their retailers here (http://beaconfabric.com/vindex.html). On this page is the Metrosene Plus thread by Mettler, but it says it's sold on a 164 yd spool. I'm wondering how big this is. Would this be too much? I'm going with this thread because on the superior threads site they suggest using this particular type of thread for your bobbins. |
User: dcloud
Member since: 03-21-2007 Total posts: 72 |
From: paroper
Date: 03-24-2007, 04:33 AM (5 of 32)
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That should be about the size of the smaller thread spools (old fashioned spools) that you see in stores. I buy some Madera Embrodiery thread on spools that is 220 yards and they are slightly larger (fatter) than those but the thread is finer so there should be thread in the same amount of space. When buying that size spool, I usually allow one spool for item sewn unless there is just a whole lot of detail to the garment, topstitching, areas of gather that might need to be gathered and removed (of course, you can always gather with something else), or alot of seams or other places where I might need to do a lot of sewing, then I might buy two. You have the larger thread spools and then you have something called mini king spools that have between 1000 and 1100 yards (depending upon the brand), a Maxi Lock cone has 3000 yards (they last a long time for home sewing, even commercial home sewing) and then there are cones or King cones that come in around 5000 yards. pam
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From: dcloud
Date: 03-24-2007, 04:48 AM (6 of 32)
| I'm just wondering if this is the right thread for the bobbin? If so then how much I should get I'm unclear on. Will I need a separate thread spool/stand for these? My machine just has a horizontal rod for thread spools. |
User: dcloud
Member since: 03-21-2007 Total posts: 72 |
From: paroper
Date: 03-24-2007, 08:54 AM (7 of 32)
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I wouldn't use an embroidery thread to sew. When sewing garments, you use the same thread on top as in the bobbin. Embroidery thread comes in 3 weights 60 wt which is fine for embroidery bobbin thread, and 30 and 40wt which is used for most embroidery colors. In machine embroidery you do not use the same thread on top as in the bottom. In sewing you do, unless the top thread is unusal, buttonhole twist, metalic, monofiliment (clear), then you use a standard sewing thread in the bobbin. In sewing you use two kinds of spindles. One lays down and one stands up. The old fashioned thread is stood on a spindle. This usually comes on an old fashioned spool, (not wooden anymore). These are the type that have a wide spot at the top and bottom, the kind you see in most pictures. The thread itself is just wound around and around the spool, in layers. If it lays down the thread tends to twist and sometimes break or tangle. The other type of thread spool is crosswound and when you look at the thread you can see it crossing itself in single threads. This thread does best if it is laid down in a horizontal position. Most machines machine made in the last 20 years or so have two spindles but quite often you only notice one. The second is often in your accessory pack. It mayl have a tab or a screw bottom and look totally useless. There are generally places on your machine, a random hole on the right side of the machine, I had one machine that had a little flat bottom on the spindle and it inserted into an open place between a lift up door on top of the machine and the body at the back in the top right hand corner...took forever for me to figure that out. Sometimes they pop up from some place...you just need to kind of "hunt around". You can also purchase a free standing spindle. The best ones have a metal base , a spindle for the thread, and a tall hook (guide). These work on almost all kinds of thread and often are helpful if your thread is twisting or breaking. It can be moved further from the machine if there are twisting problems. pam
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From: dcloud
Date: 03-24-2007, 02:33 PM (8 of 32)
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I'm just wondering if this is the right thread for the bobbin? If so then how much I should get I'm unclear on. Will I need a separate thread spool/stand for these? My machine just has a horizontal rod for thread spools. Pam, thanks for the info. There's a lot to learn here. Good thing I ordered those books. Forgive me if I seem a bit slow, but I'm still unclear on what type of thread (size and such) I should use for just ordinary sewing. Here's what they say on that Superior Threads site: "Cotton bobbin thread tends to grab more than a silk-like filament poly. Sometimes grabbing is preferred and sometimes it causes problems. A silk-like filament poly thread (not spun poly) in the bobbin will work better with metallic or a heavier cotton and spun poly thread because it's silk-like finish acts almost like a lubricant, sliding nicely with the thread." So the thread they are talking about here is just for embroidery? I take it then this is not something I would need if I'm just doing regular sewing? If not then can you recommend what kind I can use? Right now I just have some Coats & Clark cotton thread I bought at WalMart when I bought my machine. Thanks for your help. |
User: dcloud
Member since: 03-21-2007 Total posts: 72 |
From: paroper
Date: 03-24-2007, 02:45 PM (9 of 32)
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Wow, I wish we could just meet at Hancocks and I could give you a thread tour. It sounds (to me) like you might be looking at something that would be used for a quilt. I'm a little unclear about what types of bobbin they use for that. Most of the quilters I've known through the years did hand quilting. I'm just now running into the groups that do it all by machine. When you quilt you want to closely match the fabric. Most of the time, the fabric is cotton and so is the thread. I've heard it said that cotton thread in a cotton quilt will age and look the same as the quilt fabrics where thread that is poly will stay bright and shiny...even heard that poly thread will cut a quilt (I've heard that argued.) Like I've said, I'm not a quilter so I only hear the debates and really don't have a preference. I usually use a poly thread or a poly wrapped thread when sewing. My biggest problem is that I "buy sewing thread" I know the brand and where to find it in the store, but I don't know what weight it is. I use a lot of Talon threads and Metrose, Mettler and I have been known to use Gutterman although the Gutterman is not the thread it used to be. Mettler and Gutterman at one time were at the top of the list of sewing threads. It has been years since I've bought a spool of Coats thread. The newer machines don't do so well with Coats.
pam
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From: dcloud
Date: 03-24-2007, 02:54 PM (10 of 32)
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Pam, I would love to meet you in a sewing store, lol (I would be the guy holding the big sign that says HELP! - like Wyle E. Coyote). I looked up the Mettler brand because in another thread on this site everyone was recommending that brand over Gutterman. But when I finally found a retailer that carries Mettler I was confused by what type to get?? That's my dilemma right now - what kind to get. Like I said I have some C&C thread I bought when I got my machine and I pre-wound my bobbin with the white thread. By the way that's the neatest thing I've seen yet, the way my machine winds that bobbin. It was like watching someone put line on a fishing reel. I did this sitting at my dad's drawing board on the day I first got my machine and me and my dad were so geeked by it we had to thread a few other bobbins, lol. So is this C&C a good thread to use? If not what "type" should I get? This is what I really need to know. |
User: dcloud
Member since: 03-21-2007 Total posts: 72 |
From: paroper
Date: 03-24-2007, 03:19 PM (11 of 32)
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Then I'll hold the sign that says "BOOM". I can remember being so facinated by the machine when I started sewing so long ago...those memories fade until you see it in someone else's face. (funny). Coats is an OK thread to get. It is probably easier to tell you how to buy the Coats or Talon threads in the US because they are more readily available. Normally a store will carry one brand or the other and their threads will come on a standard old fashioned sewing spool and you'll have about a million colors to choose from. These colors change from season to season. Coats is a little weaker thread and it has more lint than some but it is the thread that most of us learned to sew with (unless you started with American? I think thread that had the red star...might have even been red star thread.) Usually these two threads come in two sizes of spool. Pick up the smaller spool. This will be sewing thread. It is fine to use the larger spools if you wish, but unpeal the thread a bit from the spool and compare the weights or read on the end of the thread. You want SEWING thread, not embroidery, quilting, top stitching, jeans, etc. Most of the time the thread is clearly stated as sewing threads in these brands. The thread weights are VISIBLE and you can feel the difference in the threads, if you unpeal a corner of another spool (be sure and put it back in the little cut on the spool when you finish.) When you go to match your thread, you do the same thing but you lay it across your fabric to get an idea of how it will sew into the fabric. Mettler thread is related to Isacord embroidery thread and it has the same color numbers if the thread are available in both brands. Mettler is usually also labled if it is embroidery or specialty thread. It is a very nice, glossy thread with a much smoother, longer fiber than Coats. The weights will be similar but the longer fiber makes the Mettler thread stronger. Again, you can feel the weight of the thread. Your sense of touch is surprisingly discriminating. As you sew, you will learn how to tell the differences in thread, needles, etc by the feel of the items. When sewing (for real), your bobbins will be the same thread as the top and it should sew into the garment cleanly so that the thread does not show. This has become a little less the standard since the home seamstress started getting sergers. Many do not prefer to match the threads (they are expensive, esp when you need 4-5 cones at a a time), however, a well made garment should look as nice on the inside as the outside and this generally means that the thread and the garment should be as close to the same color as possible. pam
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User: paroper
Member since: 02-03-2004 Total posts: 3775 |
From: dcloud
Date: 03-24-2007, 04:36 PM (12 of 32)
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Ok, you'll have to excuse me. I can be a bit slow at times. They say the mind is the first thing to go. All I want is for someone to recommend a good sewing thread - just point blank say, "Doug, I would use such-and-such for sewing (instead of C&C)." That way I can go look for it, buy it, and start practicing. I appreciate all the other info I've been given here, because it helps me understand about threads and their different uses, but in the end all I need is to know what thread to buy (for plain old sewing). If I get into some other types of sewing later then I'll be back with more questions. Hopefully the books I ordered will talk about these things as well. Actually I should probably get a book that just talks about thread. |
User: dcloud
Member since: 03-21-2007 Total posts: 72 |
From: dcloud
Date: 03-24-2007, 05:03 PM (13 of 32)
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Ok, for instance, on this page (http://www.secretsof.com/content/761) there are SuperBob prewound bobbins (recommended by Super Threads). These are described as L-shaped cardboard sided bobbins; the first set is a polyster thread and the second are 100% cotton thread. This is where I start to get lost, with all these choices. I mean, my machine can wind it's own bobbins, but then I'm reading here and there that certain threads (like the C&C ones I already bought) are not the greatest. Ok, then what should I get instead? Give me some choices - brand names, types, links to sites that have them, etc. And on some of these sewing sites they recommend these cardboard sided bobbins. Ok, so should I get these? And if so I still need to know what type of thread? Then if I figure out the bobbin what do I get for the top thread? I know it should be the same, but give me some links, or brand names, and such. That's what I need. Thanks. |
User: dcloud
Member since: 03-21-2007 Total posts: 72 |
From: paroper
Date: 03-24-2007, 05:12 PM (14 of 32)
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No. These are for embroidery and possibly for quilting. When sewing you wind the bobbin from the same thread that you used. Get Mettler thread. Buy this sewing thread for your bobbin AND your top thread. http://www.hancockfabrics.com/product/iMainCat/4263/iSubCat/4268/iProductID/20276/20276.html For the sake of display and a good clean stitch out of your machine stitches, (this fabric would NOT make a good shirt), buy 1 yard of this in white or natural. You should be just fine. http://www.hancockfabrics.com/product/9018.html Sewing is like any job. There are all kinds of tools to get the job done. However, you don't necessarily use the same tools to do electrical work that you might use to string a barbed wire fence, eventhough some of the tools might be from the same tool family. pam
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User: paroper
Member since: 02-03-2004 Total posts: 3775 |
From: dcloud
Date: 03-24-2007, 05:39 PM (15 of 32)
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Yes, that's just what I needed. Thanks, Pam. I ordered some thread (white, blue, black) and a yard of that fabric (white). Kind of expensive, but at least now I know where to go to get my thread. Now how big are those spools of thread? I'm just wondering if they will fit on the thread spindle on my machine. As far as I can tell there is no way to get the spindle to turn up, it's just horizontal. If these don't fit I will have to figure something else out. Also, is that fabric just good for certain things? I'm asking because in another thread Sancin suggested I get unbleached cotton to try things out on. |
User: dcloud
Member since: 03-21-2007 Total posts: 72 |
From: paroper
Date: 03-24-2007, 05:54 PM (16 of 32)
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That thread is a good weight for heavy duty things...a work apron, heavy pants, jackets, etc. My son's insulated work pants and jacket are made from Duck with a lining. There are pant weight fabirics like Twill or stretch twill that are slightly less heavy that are good for pants. While a good gabradine is good for dress slacks. A nice woven cotton or cotton and polyester blend is good for shirts. However, duck is the fabric the tech will use when working on your machine and for showing your "fancy" stitches at their best, there just isn't anything as nice. The stitches tend to pull inward on themselves and pucker some. This should give you a good chance to see your machine stitch at its best and get used to using it while not having too much worry about stitches that pucker and pull. Once you have the stitches down and you have a good feel for the machine, you can start working more on the tension and working with lighter weight fabrics, different needles, etc. pam
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User: paroper
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From: dcloud
Date: 03-24-2007, 06:13 PM (17 of 32)
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That thread is a good weight for heavy duty things... Ok, I'm hoping you meant to say "fabric" here, lol. This should give you a good chance to see your machine stitch at its best and get used to using it while not having too much worry about stitches that pucker and pull. Once you have the stitches down and you have a good feel for the machine, you can start working more on the tension and working with lighter weight fabrics, different needles, etc. Ok, so after this I can get the unbleached cotton fabric that Sancin mentioned? |
User: dcloud
Member since: 03-21-2007 Total posts: 72 |
From: paroper
Date: 03-24-2007, 06:36 PM (18 of 32)
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Sorry about the slip...lot of things going on here right now. My 5 year old granddaughter who lives with us came in about that time with a host of other people and luggage. Yes I think you'll be better able to understand your machine, but you'll still need to determine the weight of the muslin. By the way, a good unbleached muslin makes good dish towels so when you get the right weight, you can use your stitches you have practiced, hem some of the muslin and you'll have something useful! pam
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User: paroper
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From: dcloud
Date: 03-24-2007, 06:41 PM (19 of 32)
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Ha ha, company comes! Nothing like a full house. Now that's unbleached muslin cotton, right? I need some dishtowels, too. That would be a good thing to make as I'm practicing. Thanks again for all your help. 
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User: dcloud
Member since: 03-21-2007 Total posts: 72 |
From: paroper
Date: 03-24-2007, 08:47 PM (20 of 32)
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Absolutely! Unbleached muslin as far as I know is always 100 percent cotton (now a days there could be some variation on the theme...so I don't always say "for sure"..they mix so many things...just check the fabric label at the end of the bolt.)
pam
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User: paroper
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From: DorothyL
Date: 03-25-2007, 09:07 AM (21 of 32)
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Doug -- Get some cheap fabric. Cotton off the bargain table is fine. Get an easy pattern. Get some cotton or polyester or cotton poly blend all purpose sewing thread. Your Coats and Clark is fine. Now sew!! You need scissors, tape measure, some pins, A SEAM RIPPER and a good cheap iron (and board). The rest you can get as you need it. Have fun with this and stop stressing. You will do just fine. Ask Isabelle. She started out making a dress by hand. Dorothy |
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From: dcloud
Date: 03-25-2007, 02:49 PM (22 of 32)
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Doug -- Get some cheap fabric. Cotton off the bargain table is fine. Get an easy pattern. Get some cotton or polyester or cotton poly blend all purpose sewing thread. Your Coats and Clark is fine. Have fun with this and stop stressing. I'm just asking questions. I'm not stressing. I like to know things and if you don't mind I'm learning a lot from these other people. If my questions bother you then please just ignore them. |
User: dcloud
Member since: 03-21-2007 Total posts: 72 |
From: Sancin
Date: 03-25-2007, 05:21 PM (23 of 32)
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Doug, we don't mind the questions so keep them coming. It is just that you are racing ahead to higher techniques and equipment that you probably will not need until you have learned to use the basic ones. You may not even like sewing!! So do as Dorothy suggests and practice with what you have and have fun and just a few notions. We are trying to save you money and grief. I do wonder though if you are reading the descriptions for the use of some of the things you have considered buying. But like I said before, many of us do become notion junkies and suffer the same grief that other types of junkies. A lot of guilt for spending our money unwisely on things we do not need or use. 
*~*~*~* Nancy*~*~*~* " I try to take one day at a time - but sometimes several days attack me at once."
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From: dcloud
Date: 03-25-2007, 06:31 PM (24 of 32)
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I understand, but I'm still waiting for everything to arrive in the mail and get a place set up for the machine. In the meantime I'm studying and learning with what I find online and from people here. I'm not rushing out to buy everything I ask about. That's the learning process. You don't know unless you ask. Let me rephrase that: Thanks, everyone for your input. You've all been very helpful. I'm just getting all the info I can while I'm waiting on my other stuff to arrive. I still have to find a nice little desk to work on. |
User: dcloud
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From: Sancin
Date: 03-25-2007, 09:53 PM (25 of 32)
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Doug, why wait for a desk to start? Do you have a dining table. They are not really good for posture in the long run but at least you can do some practicing. I sense you getting impatient. Even TV tray table would work to try things out!
*~*~*~* Nancy*~*~*~* " I try to take one day at a time - but sometimes several days attack me at once."
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From: paroper
Date: 03-25-2007, 10:01 PM (26 of 32)
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When I was newly married I would put my sewing machine on one wooden kitchen chair and I would sit in the other. You can get by with just about anything if you want to sew enough. I fianlly graduated to a folding sewing machine table from JC Penney Co which I bought for about $25 (at the time). It worked for several years. When I bought my first really good machines 15 years ago, I put one $3200 machine in an L-shaped table along with its companion serger and put the other $2900 on a $19 students desk from Venture. It worked just fine.
pam
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User: paroper
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From: dcloud
Date: 03-25-2007, 10:38 PM (27 of 32)
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Right now I have the machine sitting on my bar. I suppose I could work with it there for now. I don't have the stuff I need to sew yet - that's on it's way. Me and my mom are going to start scouting garage/estate sales and the nearly new shops to look for a suitable desk. Shoot, just saw a really great deal on a bunch of Mettler thread on eBay. Should have checked there first. That's where I'll look next time. |
User: dcloud
Member since: 03-21-2007 Total posts: 72 |
From: Sancin
Date: 03-26-2007, 01:13 AM (28 of 32)
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Doug, I have to ask. Why are you ordering things? Don't you have a shop or department store around you that you could just go and purchase what you want to get started?
*~*~*~* Nancy*~*~*~* " I try to take one day at a time - but sometimes several days attack me at once."
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User: Sancin
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From: dcloud
Date: 03-26-2007, 02:54 AM (29 of 32)
| I don't have a car, just a bike. I can get around ok, but most places (like those that carry sewing supplies) are quite a ways off. My mom is the one who usually takes me to places that are far away, but she can't always do this. Ordering stuff I need online has made my life a lot easier. Granted I can't get everything I need online, but there are some things (the sewing stuff) that are just easier to get if I order them. |
User: dcloud
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From: paroper
Date: 03-26-2007, 03:04 AM (30 of 32)
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It might be noted here that garage sales and thrift shops CAN be a decent source of fabrics, patterns, notions, etc. You just have to keep your eyes open. What state are you in? pam
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User: paroper
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From: dcloud
Date: 03-26-2007, 03:17 AM (31 of 32)
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I'm in Michigan. Yeah, me and my mom go to a lot of sales so we'll be on the look out for stuff like that from now on. Oh yeah, and I found this great seller on eBay who is a retired seamstress and has a bunch of Mettler thread she is auctioning. |
User: dcloud
Member since: 03-21-2007 Total posts: 72 |
From: dcloud
Date: 03-27-2007, 03:17 PM (32 of 32)
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Yay! I got my sewing books and I got a great deal on that eBay auction - 20 spools of Mettler Metrosene Polyester Thread (164 yds ea) for $30. Now to get busy UPDATE: Me and my mom went to the antique mall today and found this great little desk. It was a steal at $40. It's in great shape and perfect for what I need. |
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