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From: dcloud
Date: 03-24-2007, 01:09 AM (1 of 12)
In looking around for thread I've found that a lot of it comes on cones. My machine has a horizontal thread spindle, but it doesn't tilt up for these cones (although it will take small cones only in the horizontal position).

Would I need to invest in a metal base thread stand for these larger cones or can I just get by with the smaller ones?

Thanks.
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Member since: 03-21-2007
Total posts: 72
From: Pudge99
Date: 03-24-2007, 02:21 PM (2 of 12)
I sewed for a little while with the cone just sitting on the desktop behind my machine. It was OK until I started sewing fast. I would say yes you need some type of spool holder. I use either my serger and run the thread to my sewing machine or I use a rigged up system where I run the thread from my thread rack up to a paper clip attached to my lamp then over to my machine.
Gina
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Pfaff 2040
Janome Mylock 134D
Singer Futura CE-100 w/ Autopunch
Husqvarna Viking 3D Sketch
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From: dcloud
Date: 03-24-2007, 02:41 PM (3 of 12)
Hi Pudge. Thanks for the reply. I found this metal thread stand (http://www.superiorthreads.com/index.php?page=shop.browse&category_id=53&option=com_phpshop&Itemid=88) on the Superior Threads site. I may get this one myself. Now I just need to find out what type of thread I'm going to need so I can order it on these cones.
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From: paroper
Date: 03-24-2007, 09:00 PM (4 of 12)
Maxi Lock is a good cone thread, there are a lot of brands that aren't that good. The price of Maxi Lock has come down enough through the years that the price of the cone shouldn't be a real issue. If you don't have a serger it'll last you YEARS and YEARS. You may be able to get by if you put a fruit jar or glass to the back right of your machine and then thread through the guides as usual. Most machines do not have a spindle that is heavy/large enough to support the cones. There are some adapters that can be bought but I've never used one and don't know if they work. I've used a metal stand for years. If you buy one, make SURE that the base is metal. The plastic cone stands are unbalanced and often fall over. The metals ones will stand up just fine. This thread is not necessarily recommended for garment sewing with a machine but the stresses of a serger are pretty extensive and I've never had a problem with the Maxi Lock thread. Mettler is still recommended much higher as a sewing thread but Maxi Lock should be OK...better than Coats.

Not all cone thread is sewing thread, like the other threads, be sure and check what it is recommended for...many cone threads are for embroidery but there should be something to indicate that when you look at the thread. Maxi Lock is exclusively a sewing thread.
pam

Bernina 200e, Artista V5 Designer Plus, Explorations, Magic Box, Bernina 2000DE & 335 Bernette Serger, Bernina 1530 Sewing Machine, Bernina 1300 DC Overlock (with coverstitch)
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From: Sancin
Date: 03-25-2007, 03:33 AM (5 of 12)
dcloud - I suggest you use regular thread on round or long spools till you find out much thread you need for each project and how much thread you generally go through. Most people buy thread to match the colour of what they are making. It is exciting to try new things and get notions (we become addicts for notions) but as you are just starting out try to get used to one thing at a time. That's my opinion, anyway!:wink:

FYI - thread on round spools need to be used on the vertical thread holder and the long spools on the horizontal thread holders. But not all machines have vertical thread holders as round spools are not as common as long spools - they may come as an extra and there should be a place to put the holder into it. Check your instruction manual.
*~*~*~* Nancy*~*~*~* " I try to take one day at a time - but sometimes several days attack me at once."
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From: bridesmom
Date: 03-25-2007, 10:43 AM (6 of 12)
I learned yesterday that if you put the large end cap on the top of your spool of thread on the vertical thread stand (or the little net 'jacket') it prevents the thread from coming off too quickly, or falling down and getting wound underneath the spool.
Laura
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From: jessie s
Date: 03-26-2007, 11:13 PM (7 of 12)
I like the thread cones because when quilting go through so much thread that always putting new thread spool on. But couldn't get any adaptor that would hold the cone on machine. My husband took an empty thread spool and jammed it into the bottom of the cone and it works fine. Used a hammer to really jam it in. But no problem. Looks funny but no one but me sees it. jessie s
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From: Chrysantha
Date: 03-26-2007, 11:23 PM (8 of 12)
Actually some machines DO come with extra spindles...
(they're in your foot box) the spindle fits in a square hole on the top of your machine....

I also have spool holders...5 (from Janome) and 10 from (www.embroidery.com or www.allbrands.com)

you can always get a cheap suction cup with a hole in the top and pop a dowl in it...(that way you can stick it to the cabinet or table and it won't move, it's cheap and you can make a lot of'em...)
Chrys
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From: dcloud
Date: 03-27-2007, 12:10 PM (9 of 12)
My machine doesn't have an optional vertical spindle hole. I just have the horizontal spindle.
User: dcloud
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Total posts: 72
From: paroper
Date: 03-27-2007, 12:34 PM (10 of 12)
I thought that about one of my machines too (a Pfaff) but I had a spindle with a little flat triangle attached flat to the bottom of the spindle. I hunted around and at the back corner, about 1/2 inch from the top of the machine was a little slit. The triangular base slipped into the little slit and gave me a horizontal spindle. Although some machines may not come with two stands, most have two. Some of the older machines come with two vertical stands, no horizontal, but most that come with a horizontal stand will have a vertical stand to be attached some place on the machine. Two thread top stitching is so common that most machines have arrangements for using two threads.
pam

Bernina 200e, Artista V5 Designer Plus, Explorations, Magic Box, Bernina 2000DE & 335 Bernette Serger, Bernina 1530 Sewing Machine, Bernina 1300 DC Overlock (with coverstitch)
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From: dcloud
Date: 03-27-2007, 03:52 PM (11 of 12)
Ok, I examined my machine a little closer and discovered two round holes near the bobbin winder. So I called Singer and the lady told me this is where I can install a separate vertical thread holder. I just have to press the plastic piece out of the hole and insert the vertical stand.

I'm loving this machine more every day, and the gal at Singer was extremely helpful.
User: dcloud
Member since: 03-21-2007
Total posts: 72
From: h2ofitchef
Date: 03-27-2007, 04:11 PM (12 of 12)
My serger "backs up" to my sewing machine so I sometimes leave the thread threaded through the tall part of the serger but bring it back to my machine. I've never had a problem. If the thread I want is not threaded through the serger I found the top of my spray starch has an interior circle that the cone thread just fits in, I jam the cone on and leave the starch lid on the table behind the sewing machine and off a little in the direction of "normal" thread holder!

Pam
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Member since: 09-28-2006
Total posts: 14
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