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From: embpro
Date: 06-04-2007, 07:49 AM (1 of 9)
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hi all ! how can we quantify the digitizing needs of a person? i mean to ask how many stiches does one need to get digitized in a week or month . and whats the avergae rate of digitization being given in the market.? also whom do people look forward to their digitizing needs do most people have a in house digitizer or they get the work done from outisde agencies im asking this in context of a professional designer. please comment |
User: embpro
Member since: 05-30-2007 Total posts: 12 |
From: JustSewCrafty
Date: 06-04-2007, 08:52 PM (2 of 9)
It may be just me but you may need to clarify what you mean- im kinda confused. 
May your bobbin always be full-
Stephanie www.chasingthreads.blogspot.com "Sewing is the new black" |
User: JustSewCrafty
Member since: 10-04-2006 Total posts: 168 |
From: embpro
Date: 06-05-2007, 02:22 PM (3 of 9)
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what i meant was .. whats is the number of designs a professional embroider ( with multi head or single head machines) needs to get digitized ? i am asking the number of desings as well as the total stich count of the desings required by him in a week or a months time ? Also do most embroiders have a in house digitizer or they look for some contract digitizers ? what is the gerenal rate of digitization what embroiders pay for the digitization of designs? i hope i made it quite clear this time thanks |
User: embpro
Member since: 05-30-2007 Total posts: 12 |
From: paroper
Date: 06-06-2007, 10:02 AM (4 of 9)
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Well, first of all, I don't know how many of us fall in a catagory that would qaualify to answer all your questions. I suspect that the quantity needed would first depend upon the needs of your clients and your overhead. It also probably depends on what type of embroidery which you will be doing. There are a number of sources, Embroideryonline.com (OESD), Dakota Collectables, embroidery.com, Great notions that either make or sell professional quality designs that many use for commercial embroidery. Lettering, arching of letters, resizing of designs are probably almost 100% inhouse. Digitizing of designs probably depends on the type of designs needed and the amount of time the embroider(er) has to devote to digitizing. Lettering doesn't take any time at all, and depending on your software (I use Bernina Designer Plus), is readily availiabe to you. The number of stitches per design, also varies greatly. If you are doing the logos on pockets, names, logos/lettering on hats, your stitch numbers should be low. If you are thinking of doing embroidery for sale of pillows it could be high...if you are looking at a random mix of designs (as you might find in a kiosk), your number might vary greatly. It probably also depends on whether you plan to make things up for sale, which means that your designs will probably be more generic but controlled, or if you are planning to take orders. My best guess is that most designs that are done for the public are either logos, motorcycles, dogs, horses, sports equipment (balls, bats, golf things) or they are monograms and names. Many of those types of designs are a purchase once, file and use repeatedly. It is doubtful that you'll need a lot of flowers, lace, etc...unless you have a specialty business. I purchased a disk of a three thousand professional designs from Great Notions for a minimal price. Many of the above companies have professional grade designs for purchase in bulk for a min. price. Some have purchase of ALL their designs for a great price per design, but they have thousands of designs, so the price is a little high, not as an investment, just expensive. The best deal is where you can choose your own designs, esp if you have particular needs in mind. That allows you to get lots of mascots, occupational, sports, etc designs that cater to your needs. If you are operating a standard business, it is doubtful that you will be needing to purchased digitized designs for every project, so long as you have a good software. Remember that if you declare your business properly and follow the (legal) rules, you'll get most of your investment back in tax returns at the end, so the big thing is getting the initial lay-out to get the business rolling AND...and this is a biggie....GET THE BUSINESS to offset the costs and make a decent profit. You cannot expect to hang out your shingle and start making money...well placed advertising among friends, co-workers, mailings, etc and VITAL to your business. If you are planning to do an embroidery business on demand, you need to get your name out to little league teams, choir, band, threater, gifted and talented teachers/sponsors, cheer leading sponsors, dance teachers, coaches (private and school), medical & vet offices, grocery stores, etc. I started out with a personal letter to each of these...carried cards, passed them out where ever I went, esp to palces that wore uniforms or had multiple employees who could wear uniforms or had employees in uniform. You need to pay special caution to things/logos that may be copywritten. Professional teams, university and colleges, many businesses have trade marked/copywritten logos and designs. You can't cross over that line. pam
Bernina 200e, Artista V5 Designer Plus, Explorations, Magic Box, Bernina 2000DE & 335 Bernette Serger, Bernina 1530 Sewing Machine, Bernina 1300 DC Overlock (with coverstitch) |
User: paroper
Member since: 02-03-2004 Total posts: 3775 |
From: embpro
Date: 06-06-2007, 01:05 PM (5 of 9)
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hi ! you missed out one one thing..........u dint give me any idea on the general rate of digitization per thousand stiches . i am looking for people/embroiders who get a lot of digitization work done on contract basis and not in house. they may be dealing a lot in creating customised art work for embroidery as per their clients needs. So who are my potential clients ? Should i assume now that small embroiders do not fall in this category and reply on freebie designs and the software on thair comps accompanied with their machines. waiting for an answer Embpro |
User: embpro
Member since: 05-30-2007 Total posts: 12 |
From: paroper
Date: 06-06-2007, 01:25 PM (6 of 9)
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I guess I don't understand from what point your are approaching this. The questions you are asking seem vague and philosophical. The cost per thousand for a digitizer varies, I'm sure, just as it does from stitcher to stitcher. I doubt that many people do use the standard stitches that come with their machine as most machines either come virtually empty or they have licensed designs (like Disney) that cannot be sold. I'm just not sure how much custom digitizing work is done for commercial purposes. While there certainly are digitizers who professionally fill the needs of individual clients, I doubt that they do the "fun designs". I suspect that much of their work is either duplicating logos/trade marks, for which they have to get, often pay to get special permission/license to use or they do a lot of lettering. Many of the people that I know who embroider either buy from the large firms, some of which I mentioned before, or they do a lot of simple lettering and the like that is often contained in their software. I guess part of my confusion is that I thought you were approaching this from the standpoint of someone who had a machine and was thinking of going professional and setting up a business. In fact, you might be at the other end, a professional/semi professional digitizer or someone who would want to be, looking at doing custom work for others who are doing the embroidery. If you gave us some hint of your viewpoint, perhaps we could better answer your question. If I were going to be a professional digitizer (only) I would probably do as many have done and open up my own web site. I know that there are professional digitizing people out there who do work on demand, but as Tom mentioned in an eariler post, much of their work is iffy...I suspect that if you find a good one, you better keep them happy. pam
Bernina 200e, Artista V5 Designer Plus, Explorations, Magic Box, Bernina 2000DE & 335 Bernette Serger, Bernina 1530 Sewing Machine, Bernina 1300 DC Overlock (with coverstitch) |
User: paroper
Member since: 02-03-2004 Total posts: 3775 |
From: embpro
Date: 06-07-2007, 01:25 PM (7 of 9)
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hi YOu are right . im certainly talking from a point of view of a digitizer trying to get some work for my studio apart from the local work i get here at my place the asking of questions was just to know about the needs of professinal embroiders and their working style just to be sure how much work can i get from a pro if i offer my work with a lot of cost advantage and quality. im sure i can do that with lots of precision so just trying to get an idea as to who r my potential clients for that and how much quantum of work can i get from asingle pro what should be the right way to appraoch them who get a lot of customised digitization work done on contract basis? thanks in advance for ur continuous help in answering the threads. EMBPRO |
User: embpro
Member since: 05-30-2007 Total posts: 12 |
From: paroper
Date: 06-07-2007, 07:24 PM (8 of 9)
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I do my own digitizing if I don't find it online but I'm not doing professional services right now. I noticed Tom had something to say on this subject. Now that we have some clear understanding of your needs, perhaps he can answer some of your questions or there may be others here who can help. There are a number of online businesses who offer this service. I don't know if they would be forthcoming with their trade secrets and I don't know that they are associated with our forum directly.
pam
Bernina 200e, Artista V5 Designer Plus, Explorations, Magic Box, Bernina 2000DE & 335 Bernette Serger, Bernina 1530 Sewing Machine, Bernina 1300 DC Overlock (with coverstitch) |
User: paroper
Member since: 02-03-2004 Total posts: 3775 |
From: embpro
Date: 06-08-2007, 12:40 PM (9 of 9)
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hi ! hey who do u refer as Tom in ur replies i dint get that ? well u said u cant say much about that and left it on someone else to help me fine.......... but i think ur ina good position to tell me with ur vast experience in the field ( which is evident from what all u have to say ) ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, that How much digitization or how much designs does a single machine user like Tajima needs in a week to run his machine? you do ur in house digitization so thats also for ur machines ? how ,many machiens do u run and whats the average number of desings u need per machine in a week or a month ? Also if u get a platform to outsource ur desings to a contarct digitizer where in u save on ur costs as well as get a resonable quality with a quick turnaroudn time would u go in for such a service? waiting for ur word thanks EMbpro |
User: embpro
Member since: 05-30-2007 Total posts: 12 |
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