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From: bridesmom
Date: 07-21-2007, 08:47 PM (1 of 12)
I'm trying to embroider white lettering onto white satin, with 1 layer of woven stabilizer underneath, and my bobbin thread is all showing on top. I've changed thread, rethreaded, and loosened the tension some, it's better but still not great. Embroidering on cotton with a stabilizer is fine, what else do I need to try??? This is my daughters wedding purse and I don't want to screw it up!!
Laura
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From: lendube
Date: 07-21-2007, 09:17 PM (2 of 12)
Wow, Laura, that's a tough one. I think getting it to look great is going to be really hard.

How about another sheet or two of stabilizer? Could the needle be too big or not big enough?

I'm sure I don't know any more than you do but those would be my guesses.

Lennie
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From: plrlegal
Date: 07-22-2007, 12:08 AM (3 of 12)
Laura I don't know what you mean by woven stablizer but I think your problem is probably the stabilizer. I would use cutaway in the hoop and just stick the satin on with spray adhesive. I would not hoop the satin because it may leave a mark in the satin. I think you also could use a top stabilizer, maybe a tear away. Satin is pretty hard to embroider on because you can't use any of the solvy's on it.

Patsy
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From: bridesmom
Date: 07-22-2007, 01:00 AM (4 of 12)
I just finished redigitizing it in my Embird program and changed the pull compensation and the density. (wow, doesn't it sound like I know what I'm doing - NOT). So I will try it again tomorrow cause it's only taken me 3 hours to make the changes. I need to work with this program more.
I will also try an extra layer of stabilizer. And since this is a polyester satin, it is washable thank heaven.
Laura
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From: ninifav
Date: 07-22-2007, 01:02 AM (5 of 12)
Laura, satin is a challenge to sew onto, much less embroider on...Perhaps if you first use an iron on fusible mesh interfacing; that might help make the fabric more acceptable to receiving the embroidery.. Of course it still needs a regular stabilizer ...I would use a light tearaway.....definitely would use a spray adhesive as advised instead of hooping...good luck
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From: bridesmom
Date: 07-22-2007, 01:21 AM (6 of 12)
Patsy, had an air bubble moment, I meant cut away stabilizer, not woven. And I have already put the light iron on interfacing on the good satin pieces. Just am still playing with the samples to see how it looks. Maybe I should try it on the samples as well. Sometimes I wonder if something like this is worth all the trouble. I keep reminding myself, this is a keepsake, its for her wedding. And if it works, I'll be thrilled with it.
Laura
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From: Judi
Date: 07-22-2007, 02:46 AM (7 of 12)
Yes, Laura - do treat the test pieces just the same as the 'real' one. The fusible mesh on the back is really a good one to use, but it's not a 'stabilizer' - you still need to add that. Probably at least a medium or light tear away - and then perhaps even a wash-away under that. That will keep the embroidery softer after it's done.

I'm doing embroidery on dupioni silk for my granddaughter's wedding. It's definitely a challenge, but the mesh really made a difference.
Judi

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From: MartySews2
Date: 07-22-2007, 03:26 PM (8 of 12)
Be sure that you are using the right size embroidery needle for the project. Sounds like you have the right stabilizer, medium weight cutaway, and I would add a water soluable on top. That is what I did when I embroidered my DD's satin poodle skirt. Looked nice when it was finished.
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From: paroper
Date: 07-22-2007, 05:43 PM (9 of 12)
A lot of people use an extra layer of film on top, it isn't necessary, but it won't hurt. I use a hoopless method and a light spritz of 505 spray to hold it. I've used the sticky tear away but I hate it because it really adheres to satin. I prefer 505 which should disappear with time if it is lightly sprayed on the stabilizer. I've used very fine needles (IBC) instead of stitching to hold it in place to keep from leaving marks. I prefer 2 layers of polymesh cut away to the tear away. I had to use the sticky tear away because I was using a hoop it all hoop.

It sounds like your upper tension is still too tight...don't be afraid to turn it down...it is just a number. I think that if you get the tension turned down enough you'll be fine.
pam

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From: stitchmaniac
Date: 07-23-2007, 04:38 PM (10 of 12)
I just did a silk ring pillow for my daughter. The first thing I do on fabric like silk and satin is to use an iron on backing to stabalize the fabric so it won't shred. I use Floriani Dream Weave. Just remember to press it and do not try to over work it. Then I used a clean tear-a-way. If I have puckering on the sample I lesson my tension just a little and/or increase the design very slightly...this helps a lot. Here is a link to the pillow I just did. After the ceremony, I removed the ribbon from the center that held the rings. The center design is also repeated on the back. Donna


http://groups.msn.com/nanapennypockets/donnam.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=13053
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From: stitchmaniac
Date: 07-23-2007, 04:43 PM (11 of 12)
Forgot to say, I used clear-n-melt on top. Love that product.

Donna
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From: bridesmom
Date: 07-24-2007, 12:46 AM (12 of 12)
Well, I did it. I had trouble with the front flap piece because the thread kept shredding on me, I think its one of the ones I got from my MIL and it's pretty old. So I switched thread when I did the back and it looks alright. Now it's just getting it to have enough body to hold it's shape, as it's a clutch type. I did some beading on the front flap for embellishment, and when it's done I'll post pics.
Laura
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