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From: Aussie sewer
Date: 06-04-2005, 11:37 PM (1 of 29)
Hi there everyone. You've got a great site going here and I hope you don't mind me joining in from Australia? I'm after advice because I want to buy a serger and thought I would get one with coverstitch (I reallythink that would be useful to me). The sergers with coverstitch in Aussie seem very expensive (around $1700 US) and since I work full time I'm only going to be a casual user. I'm not sure I can justify it.

The staff in the sewing stores have suggested I use a walking foot and double needle on my old Bernina 807 to create a sort of coverstitch and then buy a new serger without coverstitch. Alternatively they suggest I buy a serger and a coverstitch macine (which is a lot cheaper but I end up with 3 machines).

What do you all think? Does the double needle and walking foot work well?

Also there is a bernina 1100DA serger which is only 12 mths old being advertised here secondhand (used) for US$450. Does anyone know that machine? I had seen a used Bernina 2000DCE (which does coverstitch) but the bernina shop staff said they were very difficult to use. Sorry for such a long query. Help please.

Because of the difference in time zones, I'll probably be asleep when you answer so please forgive me on that. :bluesmile
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From: Skye
Date: 06-05-2005, 03:06 AM (2 of 29)
Hi Aussie Sewer, I live across the ditch in NZ. I have an older serger which owes me nothing and I used to use my twin needles of various widths to get the effect of a coversttich (wooly nylon in the bobbin adds to the stretchy in this stitch) Any way I too had been looking at new serger with the C/S option and thought that the $$ were on th hi side. I was exploring a SM shop in February and come across the Janome cover stitch mschines and it followed me home I got the Coverpro 1000 - it has triple needles so I have 2 different twin widths and chain stitch.
It cost $699 NZ and I love it, The greatest benefit is having the machines all set up and ready to go so no changing threads and thread paths. So for the $ for a combined machine you could easily get a basic serger and a seperate C/S machine. I have reviewed the machine over on patternreview.com
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From: Aussie sewer
Date: 06-05-2005, 03:48 AM (3 of 29)
Skye - Thanks for the advice. The 1000 is Au$699 here so there's not much in it. A few people have suggested that I get the two machines and just keep my old Bernina sewing machine which is really solid and in good condition. It probably makes sense since you don't have to rethread for coverstitch etc. I'll read your review. There are a few secondhand overlockers going for reasonable prices here, Pfaff and Bernina mainly - without coverstitch - so that may be an option. Actually a friend has an old Bernina overlocker that she wants to sell- it was top of the line at the time and cost $1000 probably 15 years ago. Maybe I should try that and see how I go, together with the coverstitch machine. We have our craft fair coming up in Sydney and the specials are all coming out for that. There's always lots of ways to spend money. Maybe something will follow me home too. :wink:
Thanks.
User: Aussie sewer
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From: grandmasue
Date: 06-05-2005, 06:38 AM (4 of 29)
My 2 cents worth would be to go with 2 machines, a serger and a coverlock. I have an all in one machine and I found for myself that having to change the machine back and forth annoying. So I now have my very expensive dual machine set for coverlock all the time and dug out my old faithful serger and have that set up all the time. For me it seems much easier to cut and tie on the threads to switch machines than to change the one machine back and forth.
Grandma Sue

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At the end I am not showing up at my grave all pretty and well preserved...I am coming in sliding, yelling "What a ride!"
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From: westbrook
Date: 06-05-2005, 12:44 PM (5 of 29)
Do not sell or get rid of your sewing machine. You still need it. A serger is like a giant sewing machine attachment... that just happens to stand alone.

Brook ...who is awake while you are sleeping... then then my today is your tomorrow.
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From: chris b
Date: 06-05-2005, 10:25 PM (6 of 29)
I would not buy a 15 yo serger!The newer ones are so much easier to use than they were back then!I replaced my old serger a few years ago with an Elna 945.It has 3 cover stitches.It is no problem to switch between stitches so I've never avoided doing that.Very seldom do I need to touch the tensions they are automatic but can still be over rode for perfection.It has 3 cover stitches plus all kinds of other stitches,plus memories to make your own or you can buy pro cards to add them without touching your tensions(by changing these yourself you don't need the extra cards:wink: ).If you have an Elna dealer nearby,go check this one out.I'd also check out the babylock that self threads.Doing a faux cover stitch on a sewing machine IMHO just doesn't look the same.
Pfaff 2170,Pfaff 7570,Elna 945
Singer 301A,Singer Redeye,Singer 15 HC
Simplicity 2/3/4
Pfaff Creative 3-D digitizing,3-D Fabric Decorator
Pfaff PCDMac2.2
StitchBunnyPro,FlutterWhumper
Embird,Studio,cross stitch,
EQ5....and adding all the time!
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From: Mother in Law
Date: 06-06-2005, 12:20 AM (7 of 29)
What does a coverstitch machine do. Boy you can tell I'm out of touch. Is this the machine that puts the two lines of stitches in a row like a twin needle does? What else does it do besides that? Hummmm I may need a new toy here. Look out Raymond, watch your wallet, here I come. :nah: I have enough toys for now.

Good to see ya Skye. I've been missing you on here lately. How have you been latley way down under?
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From: MariLynnTX
Date: 06-06-2005, 11:22 AM (8 of 29)
I'm with you, MIL, totally out of touch. What does a coverstitch do that is different from a regular serger stitch? I have a hard time here; no car and no one who knows where the Pfaff or Bernina places are in Austin. MariLynntx
Life is a song...we give it harmony or dissonance.
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From: Kylnne2
Date: 06-06-2005, 03:29 PM (9 of 29)
I was going to buy a coverstitch only machine because I already had a serger. I found the coverhem machines quite expensive and I found the Elna 744 for less than $800 and it does 16 different serged stitches and the triple seam coverhem, narrow and wide double seam coverhem and also chain stitch. It has automatic tensions that do not need to be touched when just dialing whatever stitch you need that is numbered on the dial and the needles tilt for easy changing. This machine has 5 different needle positions. The 3 front positions are used for the different coverhems and chain and the back 2 positions for regular serging. This serger is so easy to convert to coverhem where some other models take more time. Also the 744 has a needle tension release for easy removal of threads when coverhemming where other models you have to go through different steps to remove the threads and fabric from the machine. The 744 is not computerized where the model above it is. The 744 is also only a 4 thread where the computerized model above it is a 5 thread and also takes pro cards. Some other brand coverhem/serger combo machines usually have 5 threads and only 3 needles and I feel that where the 5 needles are placed in the Elna coverhem machines gives a better coverhem. Some 5 thread other brand machines also only do one double seam coverhem and not the triple. The coverhem is like the industrial hems on your tee shirts etc. Straight lines on one side and serged underneath for more stretch. You can reverse this for a deco look. You can use the coverstitch for making belt loops and doing many other things. The chain stitch can also be used for garment construction, basting and deco look.
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From: MariLynnTX
Date: 06-06-2005, 03:50 PM (10 of 29)
Thank you, Klynne, for a very clear explanation. I have not been in Austin for almost a year except to doctors (I had 3 operations between Labor Day and Christmas, after never being sick in my life) and was unable to go to a sewing machine place any of those times, so I really am out of it about new machines! There is a Pfaff dealer near Friendswood, in Webster (all those little towns down there run into each other) so maybe my DIL will take me to it when she has a little time, after I get moved. My children do not want me living alone any more, or driving in traffic. (Is there any such place?)
MariLynntx
Life is a song...we give it harmony or dissonance.
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From: Mother in Law
Date: 06-06-2005, 07:16 PM (11 of 29)
Marilynn, I've been in the sewing centers here almost every week and have never stopped long enough for them to demo one for me. But that is the reason, if they demo one to me I will want one, I better not get that demo. I've been busy today cleaning out my sewing room, a little late spring cleaning and I better stay out the fabric store also. I pulled out a table full of projects I put on the back burner some almost finished that was buried under more projects that were tabled. So my goal is to finish the room and start on the unfinished garments and get those out the way before I start something new. That said I don't need another machine at the moment I don't know where I'd set it up. My room is not little it's just full. Our new WalMart opens on the 15th so I'm waiting patiently to see what they are going to have.

I wish you wellness, I can imagine how that must feel to have to disrupt your routine because of poor health. You will be in my thoughts.
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From: Aussie sewer
Date: 06-06-2005, 11:50 PM (12 of 29)
Thank you all. I'm glad to have started something.

Klynne2 - I've just seen an advertisement for the Elna 744DCX which is a serger which does coverstitch so I think it must be similar to what you have. It's on sale at AU$1399 which is about $1100 US. I will look into it further. Everything's more expensive here.

It's cheaper for me to buy a coverstitch machine for $699 and an overlocker $599 and that is tempting but the space that it will take for 3 pieces of equipment is what's putting me off.

If I had a serger that did coverstitch as well, I think I'm the sort of sewer who would finish all the serged parts and then do the coverstitch as the final section so I wouldn't be switching between often and having to re-thread all the time. For people who do masses of sewing this obviously doesn't suit.

I've seen on this site say good things about the Elna 744 so I will seriously look. But then I've also seen good things about thePFaff 4852? and about the Bernina.

Too many decisions - but I'm enjoying it.

Thanks.
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From: Kylnne2
Date: 06-07-2005, 02:04 AM (13 of 29)
Marilynn, I hope you will be feeling well soon and can enjoy sewing. What I love about sewing is ..for me it makes the world go away..it is so peaceful. Aussie..if you check out the Pfaff 4852 I think you will find it is a nice serger. I had the 4842 the model below the 4852 which is a 4 thread non coverhem. It is also a wonderful serger. I wanted to upgrade this 2 month old serger for the 4852 which is a 5 thread but my dealer did not give the full trade in value actually when she pushed the price of the 4852 to msrp. I then went elsewhere and bought my Elna 744. The Elna's and Pfaff's are very similar in design and made in the same factory in Japan. Their is a new Pfaff model taking the place of the 4852 it is red/white and basically the same serger. It is a 5 thread with 3 needles. I believe it only offers one coverhem stitch which is a double seam. The price here for the 4852 was almost $1200..that is why I bought the Elna which offered more for a less price. The Elna has the automatic tensions which the Pfaff 4852 does not..the Pfaff 4862 does have auto tensions I believe. The Pfaffs do not seem as easy to convert to coverhem as the Elnas. I do know that my 4842 was a great serger with many lovely stitch programs but tensions needed constant adjusting. The book gave the proper adjustments and they worked well. I gave the 4842 to my daughter in law who is expecting her 4th baby tomorrow. This is my 26th grand baby another coming in January ( 3 are grt. grands) and I have a new one 1 month old also..so you see I really do use my machines to sew for the babies. :) I have been giving good sergers and sewing machines to my daughters and daughter in laws and grand daughters so they will start to sew for their themselves and their families.
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From: DorothyL
Date: 06-07-2005, 07:51 AM (14 of 29)
Aussie sewer -
I just bought a Pfaff 4862 and love it. I asked my dealer to find me a re-box machine that had been used to teach people at dealerships and it was MUCH cheaper (about $650 cheaper than list). Maybe you could find a dealer that would look for one like that for you. When I bought my Pfaff sewing machine from the same dealer several years ago it was their demo model and I've never had a problem with it.
I haven't done a lot with it yet, just finished seams. The dress I am making now for my daughter is the first thing I've done where the serger was a part of the design element.
Dorothy
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From: MariLynnTX
Date: 06-07-2005, 11:31 AM (15 of 29)
When I get moved I think I will go look at some sergers, if someone wants to waste some time with me. I have several friends there in Friendswood who like to just hack around some mornings. I won't buy one probably because the one I have does all I want to do nowadays and I'd have to get rid of it because of lack of space if I bought another. I'm like you, Susie, have to finish some current projects before I start more! I have DD Lisa's quilt to get done! I'm 78 now and I don't have forever! I'm feeling pretty good now...the trouble was, getting sick is not something I ever do. I've had maybe ONE sore throat in my life, when I was a kid, and some childhood diseases where I would cough a couple of times or break out in a very small, mild rash and then my brothers and/or cousins would come down with something badly and the doctor would say, "This must be what MariLynn almost had." So I was very surprised when I woke up at 2 a.m. coughing so bad I couldn't catch my breath and feeling my blood pressure going sky-high. I can understand why the kids don't want me driving or living alone, I guess. I can read, I can sing, I can sew, I can draw, so I'll manage! MariLynntx
Life is a song...we give it harmony or dissonance.
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From: LeapFrog Libby
Date: 06-07-2005, 12:40 PM (16 of 29)
I tried everywhere around me to find the Elna 744 ? for a reasonable price.. $ 1500. was firm here and all around me.. I just didn't have that much.. I found the Janome 900 CP for $ 700. on special and bought it.. I had to give up a sightseeing trip to DC to pay for it, but I figure with all the sewing I do for my Grands and other family members and as many T's and Sweat shirts that I make I did the right thing.. My serger is at least 15 yrs. old and still going strong, so that seemed best to me.. I could not have gotten anything like what it is worth to me if I sold it used.. And it slows me down so much to use a double needle on my regular machine..That is too much like work.. I love my coverstitch only.. It is so easy to use.. And.. best of all, no more worries about the hems and what they will look like.. (far less effort, also) Now, I no longer have to qualify my statement with 'except for the hem' when I say I can finish a T-shirt in less than 30 minutes..P. S. The dealers around here do not carry many Pfaff sergers and none of them do a coverstitch.. Prices are out of my reach, anyway..Bernina was $ 1500. also..
Sew With Love
Libby
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From: Aussie sewer
Date: 06-10-2005, 03:12 AM (17 of 29)
I popped into the SM centre last night and asked the dealer about the Elna 744. He said it's a bit risky to go with Elna now (maybe only in Australia) because the company has folded and that it had been bought twice and he couldn't guarantee what was going to happen with it re parts etc. He said they were definitely good machines though.

Unfortunately (or fortunately :bg:) while I was there I just happened to buy a new sewing machine - forgot all about the overlocker. I hope I haven't done the wrong thing 'cos I bought the Bernina 153QE which, as you prob know is superceded. Because of that though they were taking $600 off. For the price I think it's a great buy. I'm looking forward to giving it a go this weekend - it's a long weekend over here - the Queen's Birthday holiday. So wish me luck. As I say I hope I haven't done the wrong thing and bought out-dated technology but I had been thinking of buying the Bernina Activa 240 which is smaller and in the end with the discount there was only $300 in it, so what the heck.

:bluesmile
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From: Kylnne2
Date: 06-10-2005, 09:34 PM (18 of 29)
Aussie, congrats on your new Bernina, I hope you enjoy it for years to come, we all know what great machines Bernina's are. As for the Elna 744..it is made in the same factory in Japan as the top Pfaff sergers are. The 744 and Pfaff coverlocks take the same interchangeable feet. I don't think parts would be hard to come by for them. As for the changing of ownership regarding Elna..I had not heard that. I do know the Janome makes some of the Elna machines. Janome (New Home) also makes Kenmores for Sears, the Huskystar line for Viking, the new Pfaff Grand Quilter, and I have heard the new to be distributed to dealers Viking Mega Quilter is identical to the PGQ made by Janome. I have been told that Janome also makes the low line Bernina's and Bernina's newest stand alone embroidery machine that used to be made by Brother. Companies are intermingled it seems.
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From: chris b
Date: 06-11-2005, 01:27 PM (19 of 29)
I'm not sure why your dealer told you this about Elna unless of course he doesn't sell that brand?Elna was sold to Tacony in about 1990 and that is the only time it has been sold as far as I can find info online about.Tacony also owns Babylock,Simplicity,and a few others and is probably the stronger company out there selling machines today.Nothing to worry about them going anywhere anytime soon.
Pfaff 2170,Pfaff 7570,Elna 945
Singer 301A,Singer Redeye,Singer 15 HC
Simplicity 2/3/4
Pfaff Creative 3-D digitizing,3-D Fabric Decorator
Pfaff PCDMac2.2
StitchBunnyPro,FlutterWhumper
Embird,Studio,cross stitch,
EQ5....and adding all the time!
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From: Aussie sewer
Date: 06-15-2005, 08:24 AM (20 of 29)
As I said, I think some of this relates to Elna in Australia. When I look for Elna sewing machines or sergers on the net here, I can't find them, only Elna presses (ironing machines).

Klynne2 - you're right I believe - I was speaking to a woman demonstrating Janomes today - she is a professional sewer - and she said very few are made in Europe, nearly all in Japan, and China. It's like everything these days, everything is owned by someone else. Very confusing for most of us. I was very interested in seeing the 744D because you so highly recommend it, but I just can't find it. No-one here stocks them as far as I can tell. I just went to the US Elna site, clicked on distributors for Australia, found one, went to their web site but they have no Elnas listed - every other brand - no Elnas. It sounds as if no-one here wants to take over the distributorship. The demonstrator today agreed it was a shame - she used to sell Elnas and loved them. The 744 on the US site looks great but no use to me if I can't have training or service. I've been looking at the Janome 644D which is selling here on sale for $540 with a carry case and video and serger book so that may be okay. The Janome 744 (same number as the Elna) is the same machine as the 644 but it has a free arm but she told me it wasn't worth bothering with on purely an overlocker - a coverstitch machine would be different though.

Confusing!!!!!! I'm getting past it I think. :sad:
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From: Kew
Date: 09-05-2005, 11:55 PM (21 of 29)
:Canada: Hi, I was impressed by what you said to do for the cover stitch. I tried it on my Janome 10000, and I used the walking foot and a twin needle but I thought that underneath the double stitching it looked kind of messy. What is it suppose to look like? I used the default settings and thought that should be okay. What settings do you use? I have a lot of t-shirts that are too long for me and I would love to shorten them and be able to wear them. Any advice would be great. Thanks. kewankiw
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From: Skye
Date: 09-06-2005, 03:33 AM (22 of 29)
Hi Buttons,
Correct me if I am wrong but the Janome 10000 is a sewing machine - yes? Ok using the twin needle the underside will look like a zig zag sttich. I usually use woolly nylon in the bobbin(loosely=hand wound) to get a more stretchy stitch.
With the coversttich machines the underside looks like a serged seam and possibly (well in my hands) lays flatter.

I have also used a triple needle in my sewing machine - that gives a nice decorative effect.
I have to say the the c/s machine sure speeds up projects and you got to love the speedy hems on knits, not to mention great even top stitching. Enough I am rambling :bg:
Skye
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From: paroper
Date: 09-06-2005, 08:33 AM (23 of 29)
Aussie, there is nothing outdated about that sweet new Bernina machine of yours. Bernina is just changing out their lines like everyone else. That is a very popular machine and will be backed up for many years. I can still get parts and service for my old 1530 which was TOL when I bought it in 1992. If the board goes out, my dealer said he'd just send to Bernina to be rebuilt...it will take a little time, but is no really big deal. Bernina is known to stock parts for their machine for at least 20 years.

About the OLD Bernina Serger, if it is a 335. It is a very good machine. Solid, well built, but hard to thread. If it is a 2000DE or DL it is a great machine. It is has self-adjusting tensions and is not difficult at all to thread. Both were top of the line in their days. The 335 has a chain stitch but won't do a 2 thread rolled hem. The 2000 does not have the chain stitch but will do a 2 thread rolled hem. For my sewing, the 2 thread rolled hem has been much more important than the chain. I'm sure that is dependent on what you plan to do with the serger.

I purchased the 1300DCE recently. Right now I'm not thrilled with the machine. It isn't that hard to thread but the manual is terrible...I've had to use my 2000 manual to thread some of the configurations and I still am not sure about them because there are so many shared loops and it has more than my 2000. The biggest problem is that I haven't had classes on the machine and I don't know how to read all the screens. I have been using my 2000 waiting for a class. (The dealer's retired home ec teacher mom teaches the serger classes...so there hasn't been a chance.) I'm getting ready to change my sewing room once again and it will be in a place where I can spend more time with my machines...so maybe I'll get it all figured out. I think that because I haven't had the classes, my machine and I just need some extended quite time. One thing I don't like about the coverstitch machines is that they need to sit on top of the sewing cabinets, not in them because you need access to the back and side. My 2000 fits into the cabinet, so I'm getting ready to just add another table for the 1300 which means that I'll probably just leave it on cover stitch. If I have enough room I may have to pull out the old 335 and set it up for a 5 thread too..might as well.
pam

Bernina 200e, Artista V5 Designer Plus, Explorations, Magic Box, Bernina 2000DE & 335 Bernette Serger, Bernina 1530 Sewing Machine, Bernina 1300 DC Overlock (with coverstitch)
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From: paroper
Date: 09-06-2005, 08:37 AM (24 of 29)
By the way, I have litterly THOUSANDS of hours on my 2000 serger and my 1530 and I've NEVER had a moment's problem with either one...never had them serviced more than just cleaning and I've only had them cleaned once because I couldn't afford to be without them...esp. when I had the business. They were in service 12-15 hours a day 5-7 days a week for 5 years straight and never given me any problem. Great machines! They are the reason I purchased the 200 when I wanted a combo machine.
pam

Bernina 200e, Artista V5 Designer Plus, Explorations, Magic Box, Bernina 2000DE & 335 Bernette Serger, Bernina 1530 Sewing Machine, Bernina 1300 DC Overlock (with coverstitch)
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From: Kew
Date: 09-06-2005, 12:02 PM (25 of 29)
Thanks Skye, yes my 10000 is an embroidery sewing machine. I also ave a serger but I don't have the cover stitch on it and that's why I am trying to figure out the twin needle thing. What else kind of thread could I use in my machine to give that stretch? Thanks buttons
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From: LeapFrog Libby
Date: 09-06-2005, 06:11 PM (26 of 29)
The wooly nylon in the bobbin only, when you use the twin needle.. and It needs to be wound slowly so it does not stretch out too much when winding.. Reason... when you sew and it is already stretched out it will tighten up and cause your knit to pucker.. I'm not Skye, I'm just butting in cause I know the answer.. LOL.. :bg: :bg:
Sew With Love
Libby
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From: Kew
Date: 09-06-2005, 08:04 PM (27 of 29)
Thanks for your answer. I wasn't sure if I could use that wooly nylon in my 10000 or not. I'll have to find some . It's great to get answers from all of you who know so much. Buttons
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From: sancraft1
Date: 10-21-2005, 08:09 AM (28 of 29)
Not sure if you have a Babylock dealer in your area.. Go look at a Babylock Evolve.. its a great serger, has a jet air threader.. soooo easy to thread. The newest model has a Wave stitch. The cover hem you can actually sew off of, on most sergers when doing a cover hem you must come to a stop.. or you will have to rethread. not the evolve.. I love mine.. but I have upgraded to the Evolve Wave.. so I am soon to put my older one on E Bay.. its a wonderful machine.. you really should check it out..

Sandy
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From: Kylnne2
Date: 10-23-2005, 04:19 AM (29 of 29)
You can sew off with the coverhem on the Elna 744 also. The 744 also has a needle thread release button on top of the head if needed. I tried the new Evolve with the wave stitch. I thought it was much noiser than the other Babylocks. I saw the wave stitch on another Babylock and I love the stitch. The salesperson that has worked there for years couldn't get the air threader to work for the demo. I have seen the air threader from years back when I sold them anyway when Babylock first came out with that feature so I was familiar with it. I saw the Pfaff 10 thread serger too. It was quieter but I don't think I want a computerized serger. I like my 4 thread with the 3 coverhems and auto tensions but the smaller Babylock with the wave stitch has my attention though. I just love that stitch.
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