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From: DorothyL
Date: 04-19-2007, 09:00 AM (1 of 13)
Does any one use Klasse needles in their serger?
I've had such a hard time finding ELX705 needles. I have to get the shop where I got my machine order them for me -- it's a quilt shop so they don't carry much for sergers.
Last night I was in JoAnn Fabrics buying a sewing machine from the Husqvarna Viking shop there and found these needles. But they are not a brand I am familiar with.
I was so excited.
By the way, the women in the shop were pretty darn rude. I would have just left but the machine was on sale and a gift for my daughter. I almost got a sore throat clearing it to get their attention. I would never buy a Husqvarna Viking machine ever just because in two different shops on different occasions the people were so rude.
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From: grandma C
Date: 04-19-2007, 10:58 AM (2 of 13)
I don't know anything about those needles but I was able to find serger needles for my serger online. I just serched for sewing machine needles. You could also serch for the brand name of your needles and then order them online. I bought 100 each of 2 different sizes an paid about $40. I now wont need needles for a long time. Mine were Organ brand and I got them at Allbrands something. I'm sorry! 'got a braincramp and can't remember the company.
Hope you can use the needles you found. Tom Lands says that sergers are very tickey about needles and you need to use the brand specified by your machine manufactor.
User: grandma C
Member since: 01-15-2007
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From: paroper
Date: 04-19-2007, 02:29 PM (3 of 13)
Allbrands will probably have them. You might also check The last needles I purchased were Organ needles 100 for less than $11 but these were a regular size. They have a variety of needles.

Klass needles are being sold and promoted a lot by Pfaff and Nancy Z's site. I've heard they are a little harder needle than Schmentz.

Bernina 200e, Artista V5 Designer Plus, Explorations, Magic Box, Bernina 2000DE & 335 Bernette Serger, Bernina 1530 Sewing Machine, Bernina 1300 DC Overlock (with coverstitch)
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From: mommydionne
Date: 04-19-2007, 09:12 PM (4 of 13)
I use Schmetz, (viking 910) that's too bad about the viking dealer Dorothy, the one I had in NS was fabulous, she gave me a private lesson after I bought my serger bc the regular classes were at work times for me (I worked fri evenings alot)
The one here near me now is so-so, rather snobby was the impression I got, which REALLY burns me at times. I mean if we fabric/sewing junkies didn't buy machines, feet, gadgets they'd be out of job!!??
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From: DorothyL
Date: 04-19-2007, 10:34 PM (5 of 13)
If their promoted by Pfaff I should be OK. I'm going to give them a try.
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From: Sancin
Date: 04-20-2007, 05:27 AM (6 of 13)
Our local Fabricland sells only Klasse needles. They may be hard but I find them quite brittle and only used one package before purchasing Organ or Schmetz (my favourite) at another store. Fortunately I have other stores available but not necessarily convenient. By brittle I mean that when they break, they break into several pieces and I have to search for them for fear some have fallen into the machine. I am talking about sewing machine use. I think the needles are the same, aren't they?
*~*~*~* Nancy*~*~*~* " I try to take one day at a time - but sometimes several days attack me at once."
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From: rosemaryschalck
Date: 04-21-2007, 12:50 AM (7 of 13)
I own a babylock 8 thread serger and have found that the best source for needles is the internet. No sales taxes to the state and they are sent to your door.

Good Luck

User: rosemaryschalck
Member since: 09-15-2006
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From: bridesmom
Date: 04-21-2007, 01:00 AM (8 of 13)
My local stores sell Klasse and Schmetz. I have mostly Klasse just because its a closer store, and I find them ok. I change my needles quite often now, so I don't know how long they stay sharp and have only broken a few, but I have bent some,
Tickled pink with my Innovis 4000D
User: bridesmom
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From: lilypad
Date: 04-26-2007, 01:51 AM (9 of 13)
You can buy Elna serger needles here:

I haven't purchased from them but heard good references about this source. No affiliation..

The needles you want happen to be sale right now.

User: lilypad
Member since: 11-09-2006
Total posts: 9
From: Jael
Date: 05-02-2007, 08:29 PM (10 of 13)
Are serger needles longer than sewing machine needles? I am sewing on a White VS treadle that takes a needle that is 1 3/4 inches long, and is now obsolete. I can make do with a regular sewing machine needle (I just position it lower in the needle bar), but it would be nice to find a needle still in production that approaches the vintage needle in length.
User: Jael
Member since: 07-23-2005
Total posts: 3
From: paroper
Date: 05-02-2007, 10:22 PM (11 of 13)
Most sergers take a regular machine needle. The Singer needles are slightly longer than Schmentz and other standard might try those. Some of the pro needles are curved but I don't know too much about the professional needles. You might look at Atlanta Thread and Supply's online catalog and see what you can figure out.

Bernina 200e, Artista V5 Designer Plus, Explorations, Magic Box, Bernina 2000DE & 335 Bernette Serger, Bernina 1530 Sewing Machine, Bernina 1300 DC Overlock (with coverstitch)
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From: Kylnne2
Date: 05-03-2007, 04:42 AM (12 of 13)
For special threads and fabrics my serger can use the conventional sewing machine needles 130/705H but what came with my Elna coverlock and what I use is Schmetz ELx705 needles. These needles also came on my other brand serger that is not a coverlock. These EL x 705 needles are an industrial type needle that insures proper stitch formation at high speeds and is the recommended needle for coverhem. The scarf is important because it allows the looper to come near the needle to catch the thread to form the stitch.
There are around 13 needle systems for sergers according to some charts. Some sergers take industrial type needles with either a flat or round shank and some sergers take regular household needles. My old Babylock took the round shank. My Janome New Home took the household needles. It is best to go with the needles that your brand of serger recommends of course.
User: Kylnne2
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From: MartySews2
Date: 05-03-2007, 07:39 PM (13 of 13)
My Pfaff takes these needles and the best price I found was on There was not any sales tax and free shipping on orders over $30. I bought them for less than $2 a package. I only have to buy about once a year and stock on all sizes and types. They carry different brands but I only buy Schmetz. Their price beats Hancock Fabrics any day.
User: MartySews2
Member since: 05-03-2007
Total posts: 293
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